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Upstream Intervention (with Margaret Laws)

Season 2, Ep. 18

Leap before you look—that’s how HopeLab founder Margaret Laws approaches innovation. When she wants to launch a big idea, she just goes for it. She believes we learn to innovate not by planning but by doing, adapting to feedback, accepting failures, and pivoting on the fly. Join us for this week’s discussion as Margaret describes how this mindset guided her new app, Nod, which helps teens battle loneliness and depression, and how radical collaboration with teens guided the app’s creation.

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