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The Back Up Plan
Conclusion: Conversation with Mél Hogan, Deb Verhoeven, Madeleine Mendell
Ep. 10
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CONCLUSION: Conversation with Mél Hogan, Deb Verhoeven, Madeleine Mendell
The hosts reflect on the project and what it means to store data in perpetuity.
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