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Recommended Listening: A Little Man and a House...by Cardiacs
This week, Martin and Billy celebrate Scotland's epic World Cup qualification! đ and their latest gig adventures, including a night at the London Palladium with Howard Jones. Our selected album this week is the somewhat quirky and often detested first major label album from Cardiacs. From wild time signatures to theatrical vibes, we chat about what makes music exciting and unpredictable. Music insights and banter with your favourite hosts on The Apollo Audio Podcast.
The Apollo Audio Podcast is hosted by Martin Lumsden (record producer and engineer) and Billy Hills (musician and studio owner), and is recorded at Apollo Audio Hertford.
Each episode offers insight into songs, records, and the creative process, drawn from real-world experience in studios and making music.
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12. Word of Mouth Still Wins | Live Music, Vinyl & Listening Habits
24:57||Season 3, Ep. 12This weekâs episode is a lighter conversation around music culture, listening habits, and how people discover and connect with artists.We talk about vinyl, record buying, and how music fits into everyday life, alongside a discussion about why word of mouth still plays a central role in building an audience.In the second half, we listen to The Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails and reflect on its impact, production, and how it contrasts with more commercial records.
11. Why Your Music Isnât Getting Paid
26:00||Season 3, Ep. 11Most independent artists are not getting paid properly from their music. Not because streaming does not work, but because the system depends on information being set up correctly.In this episode, Martin and Billy break down one of the most overlooked parts of releasing music. Metadata, recording codes, and songwriting registration. The unglamorous details that determine whether money reaches you or disappears.They also talk about the reality of building momentum as an artist now. Why releasing a song is no longer enough, and what it actually takes to stay visible and relevant.Alongside this, they listen to Paul McCartneyâs 1971 album Ram and discuss what still holds up today.
10. John Mayerâs Continuum â Great Guitar, or Just Too Perfect?
37:19||Season 3, Ep. 10In this weekâs episode, Martin and Billy talk pedals, plugins, and the difference between building a sound you can actually own versus pressing a button and borrowing someone elseâs. They get into live guitar setups, tracking tones properly, why âinspiration not replicationâ still matters, and how technology makes it easier than ever to sound like everyone else.In the recommended listening section, they dive into John Mayerâs Continuum â a beautifully played, brilliantly produced record that raises an interesting question: when does âreally goodâ become almost too polished? They discuss the guitar work, the songs, the production, and whether this is an album they admire more than love.Recorded at Apollo Audio Hertford.Topics include: John Mayer, Continuum, guitar pedals, plugins, guitar tone, recording guitars, production choices, analog vs digital.
9. Charli XCX âBratâ, The Brits, and the Sound-Alike Era
36:05||Season 3, Ep. 9This week we talk about why so much modern production feels indistinguishable â and how to use reference tracks without turning your mix into a copy. We also touch on The Brits, live performance vs polish, and why Charli XCXâs Brat connected as a cultural moment as much as a record.The Brits: commercial success vs critical successEverything sounds the same because it can and what that means in practiceReference tracks: use them for direction, then ditch themInspiration vs replication in recording and mixingCharli XCX â Brat: sound, identity, and audience connection
8. R.E.M. â Automatic for the People and why small venues still matter
40:18||Season 3, Ep. 8This week we talk about gig culture: last-minute ticket buying, dynamic pricing, bots, and why buying tickets early genuinely helps venues survive. We also reflect on the difference between âevent gigsâ and being five feet from a band in a proper room and why supporting grassroots venues is how future headline acts get made.Album-wise, we dive into R.E.M.âs Automatic for the People - a downbeat, confident record packed with slow-burn hooks, careful arrangements, and emotional weight. We compare it to Out of Time, and ask a bigger question: what actually makes a âgreat albumâ â commercial hits, sequencing, or the whole journey?If youâre making music, playing shows, or building an audience: support your local rooms, buy tickets early when you can, and keep the ecosystem alive.
7. Sun Kil Moon â Tiny Cities and why album sequencing matters
38:18||Season 3, Ep. 7In this weekâs episode, Martin and Billy talk about music tech and internet culture â from K-pop production as a âcraft flexâ, to the current state of AI video and why it still gets the basics wrong. They also dig into a list of âalbums that tarnished an artistâs legacyâ, and end up on a bigger question: why album sequencing matters, why shuffle shouldnât be the default, and what it says when tech platforms treat records like randomised content.In recommended listening, they cover Sun Kil Moonâs Tiny Cities - an unexpectedly divisive pick that turns out to be a Modest Mouse covers album. They discuss why a few tracks land, why the album as a whole feels flat for them. Recommended listening for you or just worth cherry-picking?Recorded at Apollo Audio Hertford.
6. Refused â The Shape of Punk to Come: What a Record Sounds Like
32:49||Season 3, Ep. 6In this weekâs episode of The Apollo Audio Podcast, Martin and Billy talk about studio life at Apollo Audio - why the vibe and community matter, what bands can do to get the most out of studio time, and why being prepared (tight rehearsals, demos, and pre-production) makes everything easier once the clock starts.They also pick up the ongoing conversation about AI in music, shortcuts, and why the process of making art is the point not just the outcome.In the recommended listening section, Martin and Billy dive into Refusedâs The Shape of Punk to Come. a cult, forward-thinking album that uses transitions, samples, and unexpected turns to feel like a complete record, not just a collection of songs. They talk production choices, sequencing, and whether itâs recommended listening for you.Recorded at Apollo Audio Hertford.Topics include: Refused, The Shape of Punk to Come, punk album production, pre-production, demos, recording studio workflow, AI music, music community.
5. Audioslave â Big Riffs, Big Songs, No Shouting on Vinyl
28:21||Season 3, Ep. 5In this weekâs episode of The Apollo Audio Podcast, Martin and Billy talk about the realities of running and sustaining creative spaces, why recording studios matter to local music communities, and how pressures like rising costs and business rates affect the wider music ecosystem.They also chat through recent industry news, including the Grammys and the Brit Awards, what gets recognised on big stages, and why some genres and artists still struggle for meaningful representation.In the recommended listening section, Martin and Billy dive into Audioslaveâs self-titled debut album, unpacking the riffs, performances, production, and dynamics that make it hold up more than 20 years on â and asking the important question: does it vinyl, or is this a CD-era classic?Recorded at Apollo Audio Hertford.Topics include: Audioslave debut album, Chris Cornell, Tom Morello, studio economics, music industry pressure, Grammys, Brit Awards, album discussion.
4. David Bowieâs Blackstar â A Haunting Final Statement
42:12||Season 3, Ep. 4In this weekâs episode of The Apollo Audio Podcast, Martin and Billy talk about why people still bother making records (and why that matters), plus a few things currently doing the rounds in the music world.They discuss generative AI music and Suno (including a CEO comment that sparked a bigger conversation about creativity), the Brit Awards and who actually gets platformed on big TV performances, and a provocative idea that âthe invention of headphonesâ changed modern music by turning listening into a more private experience.In the recommended listening section, Martin and Billy dive into David Bowieâs Blackstar, the haunting, jazz-leaning final album â what it made them feel, what they respected about it, and whether theyâd reach for it again.Recorded at Apollo Audio Hertford.David Bowie Blackstar, AI music, Suno, Brit Awards 2026, music listening culture, headphones, album discussion.