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The Conversation We All Need [w/ Jillian O'Malior]

Season 2, Ep. 11
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What happens when a Black woman and a White woman sit down and actually tell the truth about work, race, privilege and layoffs? Meet Jillian O'Malior on TikTok, where she talks openly about the dumpster fire job market on TikTok and Corporate nihilism, and honestly, this episode just scratches the surface of the WTF is happening in the workplace diaries for all the corporate baddies.


This is a conversation about layoffs, yes, but it is also about self-worth, power, and what it means to burn down the system without burning yourself out.


Takeaway: Partnership. Allyship. Accountability. Openness.

Outrage feels good in the moment, but it does not build a new world. Honest conversation, accountability, and self-worth do. If we want a different future of work, Black women, White women and everyone in between will have to stop performing and start partnering for real.


Episode Chapters:

00:00:00 - Meet Jillian, unhinged bosses and the "I bet you think strippers like you" story

00:05:30 - Niceness is not consent and why men misread women at work

00:10:00 - Corporate nihilism, toxic startups and emotional labor for your boss

00:15:30 - Layoffs, Disney, DEI and 300,000 Black women pushed out of work

00:23:00 - White guilt vs white empathy and what privilege actually means

00:30:00 - Performative DEI, being hired for optics and the sting of being replaced

00:39:00 - The reputation of white women at work and why so many choose a white male boss

00:47:30 - Bias, accountability and how both Black and white women can unlearn harmful patterns

00:55:00 - Career PTSD, self-sabotage and rebuilding a life that actually fits

01:03:00 - Side business vs fixing a broken company and redefining success on your own terms

01:10:00 - Game of This or That


Jillian is an Employer Brand Consultant, Leader, and Culture Strategist, and real talker on TikTok. Follow her @JillianDoesBranding.


Follow @ThatWorkBTW on Instagram.

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