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113: Unpack unleash unfold part 2 – the unfoldening
Cover up! It's sunny out.
When uncertainty feels impossible, most teams freeze. In this episode Tom and Corissa unpack a three-phase cycle that's powered by getting it wrong first.
They unpack their "Unpack, Unleash, Unfold" framework through real examples - from a messy logo redesign to a heart rate variability app that nobody could figure out how to use.
We also float across the vision chasm between leadership and teams and realise it isn't a bug, it's a feature.
Plus: how embracing deliberate wrongness can accelerate breakthrough.
Including-but-not-limited-to
- Why your detailed vision might be holding you back
- The logo redesign that's a very simple example of how unpack, unleash, unfold works
- How a month-long breathing challenge took 3 or 4 unfoldings to get to, and is now revealing hidden product insights
- Markets are terrible at knowing what they want but brilliant at reacting to options
- The curse of knowledge that kills every internal product demo
- Building bridges over the vision chasm (or knowing when not to bother)
- Why some people thrive in uncertainty while others need linear processes
Plus: An (another) introduction to "pitch provocations" - their method for being deliberately wrong in exactly the right way.
Perfect for product teams, strategists, and anyone trying to build something meaningful in an uncertain world.
If you have questions, stories to share, or ideas for a better name for "unleash" (maybe "understudy" or "undergo") – drop us an email: tentacles@crownandreach.com
- Episode 112: Unpacking, unleashing and unfolding part 1 https://shows.acast.com/tentacles/episodes/685ffe34081ac1df5d8cb371
- Article: Bunny Ducking – part 3 of the vision chasm series https://reach.crownandreach.com/posts/bunny-ducking
- Innovation Tactics by Pip Decks https://pipdecks.com/products/innovation-tactics
- Pitch Provocations card (front | back)
- Episode 007: Pitch Provocations part 1 https://shows.acast.com/triggerstrategy/episodes/663109cbcff31b0012ae9326
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142. 142: Sit with it
24:38||Season 1, Ep. 142When a hiring manager asks an unanswerable question, what if that's the whole point?In this one, Corissa brings along a Reddit thread that stopped her in her tracks. A candidate who discovered, mid-interview, that the interviewer had never once rejected someone based on their actual answer. What they were watching for was whether you'd sit with the discomfort of having no right option, or immediately reach for a safe response ... one where you try to please the interviewer.That question spirals us into the Kobayashi Maru, the art of giving feedback (and filtering feedback), why founders hold back from the conversations that would actually tell them the truth, and what it means to stop preparing the right answers and start trusting your own judgement.The Star Trek test designed to be unwinnable — and the eejit who won anywayWhy the interviewer never rejects based on the answer itselfThe golden rule for making sense of feedback that's almost always trueWhy founders often make every move except the one that would actually test the ideaWhy when you hear "other people would ..." it should set off alarm bellsThe Red Queen effect in interviews: why every clever question eventually gets gameableHow to prepare for interviews by stopping preparing for interviewsThis one's for anyone who's noticed that the world keeps getting less predictable, and that "sitting with discomfort" is somehow both obvious advice and surprisingly hard to take.ReferencesThe Iron Triangle (good / cheap / fast ... pick two)Mike Haber's Inverted Iron Triangle (bad / late / over-budget ... you can have all three!)Neil Gaiman's feedback rule (attributed, then immediately un-attributed, could be apocryphal)Star Trek's Kobayashi Maru scenarioThe Red Queen Effect
141. 141: Indifference is the default
40:52||Season 1, Ep. 141Everyone's got a brilliant value proposition. And most of them fail.Tom's been reading a book that argues the problem isn't your messaging, your features, or your market research. The problem is that most people — most of the time — simply don't care.Indifference is the default. And you can't overcome indifference by being more persuasive. (Nor by shipping faster, dear LLM code wrangling friends.)In this one, we dig into why "unmet needs" is a nearly useless frame, what authentic demand actually looks like in the wild, and how a trucking startup found the wrong signal in all the right places.The "not-not" principle: why "it would be nice" is almost worthless, and what you're actually hunting forWhy a massive client said "when can it be ready?", started talking money, all the signals you'd be excited about ... and still never signed the contractOur old buddy Ignatz Semmelweis. He was right in a way that was socially unacceptable, and so he was thrown out of the establishment. 50 years later, everyone else finally got it, but only because it became socially unacceptable not to.What six weeks of not talking to truckers reveals about the psychology of founders (and possibly all of us)An example based on a fish finder and an accidental twist that created a breakthrough in product demand, from meh to three or four on each boat.Sturgeon's Law, the Mom Test, and why all the right signals can still point you in the wrong directionThis one's for anyone who's built something sensible that people said they wanted — and then didn't buy.ReferencesHeart of Innovation — Merrick Furst, Matt Chanoff, Daniel Sabbah & Mark Wegman (founders of Damballa and Flashpoint incubator) http://theheartofinnovationbook.com/Cedric Chin's writing on Heart of Innovation — https://commoncog.com/the-heart-of-innovation-why-startups-fail/Rob Fitzpatrick — Write Useful Books — https://writeusefulbooks.comSturgeon's Law — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_lawGoodhart's Law / Strathern's reframing — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_lawThe Mom Test — Rob Fitzpatrick — https://www.momtestbook.comInnovation Tactics (Tom's card deck via Pip Decks) — https://pipdecks.com/products/innovation-tacticsMultiverse Mapping — https://multiversemapping.com
140. 140: A pandemonium of stochastic parrots
27:00||Season 1, Ep. 140Your hospital has a brilliant new security measure. Your doctors have a paper cup.Your IT team demands a new password every fortnight. Your staff have a Post-it note.Every time someone tries to make a system more secure, the system gets less secure.Tom and Corissa roam from hospital proximity sensors to vibe-coded spreadsheets, and find the same story playing out everywhere: different incentives, predictable workarounds, and a cycle that will keep going long after the technology changes.Why the most dangerous thing about a security measure might be how annoying it isGeoff the tinkerer, his idiosyncratic Excel spreadsheet, and what might happen when he gets access to an AI coding tool"A pandemonium of stochastic parrots" — what frontier engineering teams are actually learning about agent swarms (and it's not what the headlines say)The DevOps precedent: what happened to the person whose whole career was named-server maintenance, and how that rhymes with nowWhy your entire product sprint team might look, from the CEO's perspective, like a very slow LLMThe one thing we can reliably predict about how AI will change organisations — even if everything else is uncertainFor anyone trying to figure out where to place their bets — on career, on technology, on their team — when the only honest answer is that nobody knows.Links & referencesSimon Wardley (and his models for how technology and practice co-evolve)Clayton Christensen (Innovator's Dilemma, disruption theory)Episode 134: Geoff's shadow spreadsheet sprawl https://shows.acast.com/tentacles/episodes/696fea603738e9e7d196e2f5Episode 127: The unbundling and bundling of jobs https://shows.acast.com/tentacles/episodes/6920570d4105c9a02176f2bc
139. 139: Sturgeon's Vibe Code
27:56||Season 1, Ep. 139Everyone’s got an opinion on vibe coding. Half the internet says it will save you £150,000 a year and you will never need a developer again. The other half says it is a dumpster fire of security holes and spaghetti code. Both camps are loud. Both camps are partially right. And lots of us watching the bunfight are just confused.In this one, Tom and Corissa try to make sense of it — not by picking a side, but by honing some questions. Their lens is: bounded applicability. Some tools are good for some things. Nothing is good for everything. The hard part is knowing which is which.Including-but-not-limited-to:Tom’s first proper foray into Claude Code, a surprisingly useful Python script it produced in 15 minutesA practical rubric: the questions to ask before you let an AI mess with your stuffThe developer who reviewed and approved every chunk of code and then came back a week later to find chaosThe architect’s clever marketing stunt that was already broken by the time anyone tried itWhy the surface sheen of coherence stops you thinking criticallyDave Snowden’s quietly devastating observation about what we’re actually doing when we accept AI outputsVibe-coded accounting software ... a brief thought experimentThis one's for anyone trying to navigate the hype — in any direction — without losing their critical faculties in the process.Links & referencesTheodore Sturgeon — science fiction writer; originator of Sturgeon’s Law (90% of everything is crap)Children of Time by Adrian TchaikovskyDave Snowden, cited via Corissa’s recollection of a LinkedIn post about AIEpisode 039: Bounded Applicability — the concept underpinning this episode’s diagnostic framework
138. 138: Kill, pivot, commit? … the swing dance switcheroo
37:39||Season 1, Ep. 138You're doing everything right. The team is working hard, the process looks sensible, the effort is real. And yet — somehow — it's still not working. And nobody quite wants to say why.In this one, we use our own dance teaching as a live case study in kill, pivot, commit decisions: two years of tweaks, probes, and exhausted options before one unexpected forcing function finally made the decision for them.Why the real problem is often visible — but no one can look at it straight onThe difference between a panicked pivot and one that feels like settling (the good kind)How "problems grow to the size they need to" before you can act — and what that costs in the meantimeThe invisible organisational boundaries that make the logical option impossibleWhy loyalty to early customers makes the necessary pivot harder than it should beThe Transactional Analysis trap that turns your friends into an audience for a problem you don't actually want solvedFat Duck or McDonald's — and why the middle is the worst place to beFor anyone who's been doing the sensible thing for long enough to suspect the sensible thing isn't working.Links & ReferencesLuca Dellanna's 100 Truths You Will Learn Too Late https://luca-dellanna.com/books Eric Berne's Games People Play, including "Why Don't You — Yes But" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_People_Play_(book)Adam Mastroianni's Experimental History https://www.experimental-history.com/p/two-stupid-facts-that-rule-the-world
137. 137: The six or seven problem when "being more strategic"
28:21||Season 1, Ep. 137Being strategic sounds like it should be serious business. It turns out the seriousness can be exactly what gets in the way.Following on from episode 136, Tom and Corissa pick up a listener thread about strategy being a zero-sum status game at the company level — then take a sharp left turn into why most people are stuck in exactly the wrong zone for doing anything useful with uncertainty.The conversation weaves together Lindy Hop, improv theatre, Pitch Provocations, and a fairly bleak observation about time — into something unexpectedly practical.The barbell approach to play: why chronic 6/7 stress is actually the worst place to be for innovation, and what the 0 and 10 extremes have in commonWhy "just be more playful" is almost as useless as "just be more strategic" — and practical stuff you can do insteadUncertainty bubbles: how to artificially impose the right kind of pressure so that different things can emergeFront-loading the nightmare — and why Pitch Provocations deliberately generates high-signal feedback when everything is still wrongThe hidden cost of over-investing before you've tested: stress that balloons, sunk costs, and projects that polish the wrong thingWhy improv, Lindy Hop, and safe-to-fail experiments are the same muscle — and how to build it somewhere low-stakes firstStrategy as fractal: you don't need "strategy" in your job title to be doing more of it right nowFor anyone who suspects the rules they're playing by are made up — and wants somewhere safe to test that hypothesis.Drop us a line: tentacles@crownandreach.comReferences and links:Episode 136: When they tell you to 'be more strategic' (but not what that actually means) https://shows.acast.com/tentacles/episodes/698de53934f221647e8927eaDonald Cox – friend of Tentacles who shared the point that there's only a little strategy at any one time at the company levelViktor Frankl — Man's Search for MeaningDave Snowden — stress, innovation, and exaptationMemento MoriInternal locus of controlPitch Provocations method (episodes 007–009 for intro)Uncertainty bubbles — Crown & Reach concept, find out more when we share at https://reach.crownandreach.comMultiverse Mapping — https://multiversemapping.comAngie Lina — improv teacher and strategy/sense-making practitioner, former LSE Lindy Hop student
136. 136: When they tell you to "be more strategic" (but not what that actually means)
32:35||Season 1, Ep. 136When your boss tells you to "be more strategic," what do they actually mean?Sometimes it's genuine - they see you working hard on the wrong things and want to help you refocus. Sometimes it's politics - they need you to read between the lines they can't legally spell out. And sometimes it's just offloading risk. The problem? You're supposed to figure out which story is true, and then what to do about it, with no guidance and zero training budget.In this episode, we walk (literally - five-months-pregnant Corissa sets the pace) through the murky reality of being told to level up without a map. We explore why "strategic" is a suitcase word people pack with whatever they like, how to decode what's actually being prioritised vs. what's officially important, and a simple framework you can use today to start getting better signal from your manager.Including-but-not-limited-to:Why "be more strategic" often secretly means "be more politically savvy" (and what to do about that)The official game vs. the real game - and how to play both without burning outSignal > Stories > Options: how telling yourself different stories unlocks different actionsContext, Proposition, Triggers (CPT) - a back-briefing technique that helps you test assumptions and get clearer directionWhy diligent people can get penalised for doing exactly what the organisation says it wantsWhen half-arsing the official work is actually the strategic moveThis one's for anyone who's doing good work, getting mixed signals, and wondering why their effort isn't translating into recognition or progress.Drop us a line with your own "be more strategic" stories: tentacles@crownandreach.comReferences and linky goodness:John Grant (labour market researcher, Cynefin Slack community member)Dave SnowdenStealing the Corner Office by Brendan ReidSignal > Stories > Options framework (Crown & Reach) https://triggerstrategy.substack.com/p/signals-stories-optionsContext, Proposition, Triggers (CPT) https://reach.crownandreach.com/posts/mini-pitchesMultiverse Mapping: https://multiversemapping.comPitch Provocations method (referenced, episodes 007-009): https://shows.acast.com/triggerstrategyCynefin Co's upcoming training (covers all seven frameworks including Estuarine Mapping) https://thecynefin.co/product/masterclass-7-frameworks-uk-2026-2/
135. 135: The resistance to instability - and why Stewart Lee hasn't finished his show yet
22:47||Season 1, Ep. 135What does a comedian's unfinished show, a five-year plan gathering dust, and your CEO's quiet plea to "go back to normal" have in common?They're all wrestling with the sense that eventually, things will settle down, right? That the chaos is only temporary. That once this transformation/restructure/market shift is done, we can finally get back to business as usual.In this one, with plenty of traditional traffic noise and some moments of getting lost, we start off with the Stewart Lee gig we went to last night, move through organisational transformation war stories, and end up at Estuarine Mapping – a method for navigating strategy when your substrate keeps shifting beneath you.Including-but-not-limited-to:Why the most dangerous person in the room is the one waiting for certainty to returnThe CEO confession that reveals what most executives are actually thinking during transformationWhat happens when you're getting your product (show, strategy, service, ...) ready in the way that normally works ... but the context keeps changingSubstrate, salt marshes, and granite cliffs: why your strategic estuary has different pace layers (and how to tell them apart)The counterintuitive move that matters way more than better planningWhy accepting that things won't settle is weirdly when things can start to shift for youThis one's for anyone who's ready to stop waiting for things to calm down already.ReferencesBen Sauer https://bensauer.net/Stewart Lee https://www.stewartlee.co.uk/Dishoom https://www.dishoom.com/Estuarine Mapping https://reach.crownandreach.com/posts/a-trip-into-the-estuary
134. 134: The Protocol Problem part 1 – Geoff's shadow spreadsheet sprawl
29:59||Season 1, Ep. 134"Geoff" has been running critical parts of every business on a Byzantine spreadsheet empire for 20 years. Every IT department wants to regulate him. Who's right? (Trick question: you need both.)In this episode, we feel our way through the murky territory of protocols—from life-saving surgical checklists to shadow IT empires built by people like Geoff, who just want to get their jobs done without asking permission. What we discovered: protocols aren't the enemy. Neither are the people who break them. You need both, and—whether you like it or not—you're going to get both anyway.Fascinations:Why giving someone just enough control over how they wash dishes is a vital part of managementThe novel "tracer dye" method for tracking shadow IT (and why Geoff will quickly find a way around it)How a 19th-century doctor was ejected from the medical community for [gasp!] suggesting surgeons wash their handsHow expert oil rig workers can land helicopters in storms through tacit knowledge no checklist could captureThe difference between a checklist, a flow chart, and knowing when neither will save youHow social norms function as soft protocols (and why London Tube etiquette is more fragile than you think)This one's for anyone who's ever tried to bring order to chaos — and for anyone resisting someone else's attempt to do the same.Links and referencesVenkatesh Rao – "Summer of Protocols" / protocolization conceptVaughn Tan – "boring tiny tools" concept https://vaughntan.org/bttparadigmIgnaz Semmelweis – 19th-century physician who pioneered handwashingAtul Gawande – Author of The Checklist ManifestoDave Snowden – Cynefin framework / oil rig helicopter storyGary Klein – Expert intuition and pattern recognitionProcrustes – Greek mythology (innkeeper with the "one-size-fits-all" bed)Chick sexing – Example of tacit knowledge that can't be articulatedSocial protocols – Norms like cheek-kissing customs across culturesSimple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) / Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) – Technical protocol examples