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"It's Not a Broken Family" - What a Divorce Lawyer Who's Been Through It Wants You to Know | Gabriella Pomare
Disclaimer: This episode is for general information only and is not intended as legal advice. Please seek independent legal advice for your individual circumstances.
Separation and divorce are topics most of us only talk about in hushed tones, or not at all. But what if the conversation could actually help? Whether you're happily married, quietly struggling, or somewhere in the middle of the hardest decision of your life, this episode is for you.
Jules sits down with Gabriella Pomare, a Sydney-based family lawyer, author, and founder of The Collaborative Co-Parent, a platform dedicated to helping separated families move through co-parenting with more compassion, clarity and grace. What makes Gabriella different from most lawyers? She's been through it herself. With a one-year-old at home and a career built on guiding others through divorce, she navigated her own separation and came out the other side with a perspective that is equal parts honest, practical and deeply human.
In this conversation, Jules and Gabriella talk about why marriages quietly unravel long before anyone says a word, the dangerous idea of staying for the kids, how to protect your children through the hardest kind of change, what to do when your ex simply won't cooperate, and why in Gabriella's words, it's not a broken family.
This is not a conversation about failure. It's a conversation about rebuilding.
Connect with Gabriella:
🌐 Website: https://gabriellapomare.com
🎙 Podcast "Before It Break with Gabriella Pomare" https://gabriellapomare.com/podcast
📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegabriellapomare/
CHAPTERS
00:00 — Introduction & Disclaimer
01:00 — Welcome: What Gabriella Wants You to Take From Today
02:50 — Why She Chose Family Law - and What Changed When It Got Personal
06:10 — Why Every Marriage and Divorce is Different: No Cookie-Cutter Answers
07:00 — The Silent Divorce: When Couples Stop Fighting and What That Really Means
08:30 — Communication is Everything - How to Have the Conversations You're Avoiding
14:00 — Is Divorce Failure? Reframing the Stigma
16:00 — "It's Not a Broken Family" - How You Do the Divorce Changes Everything
18:20 — Do You Need a Lawyer? The Practical First Steps After the Decision is Made
20:10 — The Danger of Suffering in Silence - and What Good Friends Can Do
25:00 — Putting Your Kids First: What That Actually Means in Practice
27:30 — Children Didn't Choose This: How to Help Them Feel Safe and Loved
29:00 — One Thing You Can Do This Week for Your Kids
31:30 — Staying for the Kids: When It Helps and When It Harms
32:50 — When Your Ex Won't Play Nice: Setting Limits with a High-Conflict Co-Parent
36:00 — The Path Through the Mud: Healing, Grief and Getting Unstuck
37:00 — Silver Linings: The Unexpected Positives for Kids and Parents After Separation
40:00 — What to Do If You're Feeling Lost Right Now
42:30 — Final Words: You Are Not a Failure. You Get a Do-Over.
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3. Sam Wood: Bachelor "Never Told Before" Secrets, Building 28 and Why Strength Training Will Change Your Life in Menopause
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1. From "Hard No" to Standing Ovation: Archie Sebastian's Journey to the Stage with Guy
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34. Part 1: Understanding What Young People Are Really Going Through - Dr Hayley Watson (Clinical Psychologist)
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33. Jules & Lisa Couch Catch-Up: Just Getting on With It! Trying to Keep Up Habits & Resetting After Routine Disruption
48:14||Season 2, Ep. 33This week’s episode is a real-time life update.School term is back, routines are out the window, the gym schedule has collapsed, the Coke Zero is flowing and the lawyer in Jules head has taken up permanent residence.If you’ve ever gone from “I am thriving” to “I am unravelling” in the space of two weeks - this one’s for you. Lisa and I talk honestly about what happens when your carefully built habits get disrupted, how hormonal weeks can make everything feel heavier than it actually is, and why sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is surrender instead of spiral.There’s crying.There’s chips.There’s Beyoncé.There’s a saxophone wedding story that will wreck you in the best way.If you’ve been feeling off-kilter, emotional, stretched or like you’ve let yourself down you haven’t. You’re human. And you’re not alone.Hit follow if you’re loving Tea with Jules - your support means the world.Let’s keep trying to life together.Connect with JulesGet Jules’ Newsletter – a letter each week with personal antidotes, recipes, fashion, cocktails, podcast episodesJules Best Selling Book – Tea & HonestlyWatch Tea with Jules on YouTubeFollow Jules on InstagramFollow Tea with Jules on InstagramFollow Jules on TikTokSubscribe to Tea with Jules the Podcast in iTunesCredits:Sound Engineer & Music: @kailesh_reitmansVideographer & Editor: @nathan_niguidulaProducer: @lisajohnston_ @julessebastianWelcome to Tea with Jules hosted by Jules Sebastian. Here we spill the tea and learn life lessons from honest conversations with experts, celebrities and friends.
There Is No Perfect Parent - Maggie Dent On Raising Emotionally Healthy Kids and the Realities of Parenting
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