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Tooth and Claw

Season 1, Ep. 122

Sabretooth is back ruining Wolverine’s life. What’s the chip on his shoulder? Also, Dune is back!


This week we took a look at the latest adaptation of 'The Crow', examining the slim, muscular new lead that's stirring up nostalgia and controversy alike. Is is too Jared Leto or just the same as it ever was? Next, we delve into 'The Watchers' trailers, pondering over who really watches those who watch us (it's aliens). The main villain of the new Shyamalan venture seems to be the Irish Seaside town of Bray.

We're almost certain that we've heard of the story of I Saw The TV Glow before on Creepy Pasta, we do a quick delve into the truly terrifying world of Candle Cove and how it might have inspired the latest A24 horror venture.

Most importantly, Dune is back! Mick has seen Dune 2 and Denis Villeneuve has done it again, delivering a belter of an adaptation of the Frank Herbert classic. But has he changed too much?


But that's not all – the episode also tackles the age-old feud between Wolverine and Sabretooth, exploring its roots and current implications in comic book history. With Michael and Benjamin's insightful commentary, learn about the significance of this rivalry and its impact on Wolverine's narrative arc.


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As always, we're eager to engage with our audience. If our discussion sparks any thoughts or opinions, hop onto our Discord channel linked in the description. Let's continue the conversation off-air.



3:30 Benjamin disrespects The Crow!

9:45 The big twist in The Watchers is that it’s set in Bray.

16:00 I Saw the TV Glow (and a big diversion into Candle Cove) 

28:30 Dune 2 Review (Broad Spoilers)

40:00 Dune 2 Spoilers!

50:30 Why is Sabretooth ruining Wolverine’s 50th Birthday?



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