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Gerard Robinson: The New Frontier in School Choice
Gerard Robinson helped pave the way for universal education freedom with the 2017 book he co-edited entitled Education Savings Accounts: The New Frontier in School Choice. On this week's Students Over Systems episode, he provides a historical overview of the early days of school choice, describes the steady growth of the movement over three decades, and addresses the lack of education freedom in Virginia, where he previously served as Secretary of Education. Gerard also shares his concerns about the emergence of click-bait-for-debate and calls for healthier conversations about the merits of school choice.
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The Students Over Systems podcast features conversations that celebrate education freedom and brighter futures. Host Ginny Gentles, director of the Education Freedom Center at Independent Women’s Forum, is joined by the parents and policymakers who empower families with leverage and options.
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30:07||Season 1, Ep. 36Under State Superintendent of Education Cade Brumley's leadership, Louisiana has safely reopened schools, revamped literacy instruction, introduced new social studies standards, and prioritized academic achievement. Now, the Pelican State is poised to expand educational freedom. Dr. Brumley joins Students Over Systems to discuss the Louisiana GATOR program and plans to provide parents with state-funded education savings accounts (ESAs) to pay for their children's K-12 education expenses. Dr. Brumley also outlines the Louisiana "Let Teachers Teach" working group's recommendations for removing classroom distractions and bureaucratic burdens.--The Students Over Systems podcast features conversations that celebrate education freedom and brighter futures. Host Ginny Gentles, director of the Education Freedom Center at Independent Women’s Forum, is joined by the parents and policymakers who empower families with leverage and options.You can listen to the latest Students Over Systems episode(s) here or wherever you get your podcasts. Then subscribe, rate, and share with your friends. If you are already caught up and want more, join our online community. Be sure to subscribe to our emails to ensure you’re equipped with the facts on the issues you care about most: https://iwf.org/connect. Independent Women’s Forum (IWF) believes all issues are women’s issues. IWF promotes policies that aren’t just well-intended, but actually enhance people’s freedoms, opportunities, and choices. IWF doesn’t just talk about problems. We identify solutions and take them straight to the playmakers and policy creators. And, as a 501(c)3, IWF educates the public about the most important topics of the day. Check out the Independent Women’s Forum website for more information on how policies impact you, your loved ones, and your community: www.iwf.org. Subscribe to IWF’s YouTube channel. Follow IWF on social media: - on Twitter- on Facebook- on Instagram#IWF #SOSPodcast #AllIssuesAreWomensIssues35. Kelley Williams-Bolar: Jailed for Enrolling Her Children in a Nearby Public School
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33:22||Season 1, Ep. 30What does it mean to truly empower and trust families to make education decisions for their children? Whitney Marsh, Director of Policy Operations at yes. every kid. Foundation, joins Students Over Systems to discuss removing boundaries that restrict where families can send their kids to school, supporting edupreneurs, and implementing effective education savings account (ESA) programs. Whitney advocates for a shift away from excessively regulating education freedom programs to trusting parents’ judgment.--The Students Over Systems podcast features conversations that celebrate education freedom and brighter futures. Host Ginny Gentles, director of the Education Freedom Center at Independent Women’s Forum, is joined by the parents and policymakers who empower families with leverage and options.You can listen to the latest Students Over Systems episode(s) here or wherever you get your podcasts. Then subscribe, rate, and share with your friends. If you are already caught up and want more, join our online community. Be sure to subscribe to our emails to ensure you’re equipped with the facts on the issues you care about most: https://iwf.org/connect. Independent Women’s Forum (IWF) believes all issues are women’s issues. IWF promotes policies that aren’t just well-intended, but actually enhance people’s freedoms, opportunities, and choices. IWF doesn’t just talk about problems. We identify solutions and take them straight to the playmakers and policy creators. And, as a 501(c)3, IWF educates the public about the most important topics of the day. Check out the Independent Women’s Forum website for more information on how policies impact you, your loved ones, and your community: www.iwf.org. Subscribe to IWF’s YouTube channel. Follow IWF on social media: - on Twitter- on Facebook- on Instagram#IWF #SOSPodcast #AllIssuesAreWomensIssues29. Chris and Christine Stigall: Making the Leap from the Status Quo
35:19||Season 1, Ep. 29Chris and Christine Stigall, hosts of the Herzog Foundation's Making the Leap podcast, join Students Over Systems to share how they encourage and equip parents to make choices best suited for their families. Chris and Christine (a former public school educator) discuss both their family's education choices and concerns they hear from other parents, including how some public schools have become "fancy rec centers." The Stigalls also describe the Herzog Foundation's extensive training resources for churches and educators interested in expanding or opening schools.--The Students Over Systems podcast features conversations that celebrate education freedom and brighter futures. Host Ginny Gentles, director of the Education Freedom Center at Independent Women’s Forum, is joined by the parents and policymakers who empower families with leverage and options.You can listen to the latest Students Over Systems episode(s) here or wherever you get your podcasts. Then subscribe, rate, and share with your friends. If you are already caught up and want more, join our online community. Be sure to subscribe to our emails to ensure you’re equipped with the facts on the issues you care about most: https://iwf.org/connect. Independent Women’s Forum (IWF) believes all issues are women’s issues. IWF promotes policies that aren’t just well-intended, but actually enhance people’s freedoms, opportunities, and choices. IWF doesn’t just talk about problems. We identify solutions and take them straight to the playmakers and policy creators. And, as a 501(c)3, IWF educates the public about the most important topics of the day. Check out the Independent Women’s Forum website for more information on how policies impact you, your loved ones, and your community: www.iwf.org. Subscribe to IWF’s YouTube channel. Follow IWF on social media: - on Twitter- on Facebook- on Instagram#IWF #SOSPodcast #AllIssuesAreWomensIssues28. Corey DeAngelis: Funding Students and Exposing Radical Teachers Unions
40:28||Season 1, Ep. 28Corey DeAngelis, senior fellow at the American Federation for Children, joins Students Over Systems to discuss the educational industrial complex, the pernicious influence of teachers unions, and the recent growth in school choice programs. Corey explains why he advises leaning into the culture wars in his upcoming book, The Parent Revolution. He also dispels a number of education freedom myths, including the assertion that school choice defunds public education.--The Students Over Systems podcast features conversations that celebrate education freedom and brighter futures. Host Ginny Gentles, director of the Education Freedom Center at Independent Women’s Forum, is joined by the parents and policymakers who empower families with leverage and options.You can listen to the latest Students Over Systems episode(s) here or wherever you get your podcasts. Then subscribe, rate, and share with your friends. If you are already caught up and want more, join our online community. Be sure to subscribe to our emails to ensure you’re equipped with the facts on the issues you care about most: https://iwf.org/connect. Independent Women’s Forum (IWF) believes all issues are women’s issues. IWF promotes policies that aren’t just well-intended, but actually enhance people’s freedoms, opportunities, and choices. IWF doesn’t just talk about problems. We identify solutions and take them straight to the playmakers and policy creators. And, as a 501(c)3, IWF educates the public about the most important topics of the day. Check out the Independent Women’s Forum website for more information on how policies impact you, your loved ones, and your community: www.iwf.org. Subscribe to IWF’s YouTube channel. Follow IWF on social media: - on Twitter- on Facebook- on Instagram#IWF #SOSPodcast #AllIssuesAreWomensIssues