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27. Ayres Just Right Challenge & Adaptive Response
In this episode, we dive into the principles of adaptive responses and just right challenges as laid out by Jean Ayres in sensory integration therapy. We share our experiences and discuss the application of these principles in clinical practice. You’ll hear us talk about the developmental nature of this approach, the role of neuroplasticity, and the importance of individualized treatment. Through our conversation we highlight the significant impact of understanding and using these principles can have on children's functional abilities and overall quality of life.
00:00 Introduction and Excitement About the Sensory Integration and Learning Disorders
00:43 A Funny Story About a Lost Book
05:32 Discussing Adaptive Response and Just Right Challenge
06:55 Reading and Analysing Jean Ayres' Work
14:31 The Importance of Developmental Sequences in Therapy
23:48 Understanding Executive Functions and Developmental Insights
25:00 The Profound Concept of Developmental Approach
25:31 Adaptive Responses and Internal Motivation
27:15 The Just Right Challenge in Therapy
28:43 The Importance of the Spirit Tool
29:58 Tailoring Therapy to Individual Needs
31:44 Trusting the Developmental Process
32:44 Real-Life Success Stories
37:42 Applying Developmental Principles Across Domains
43:03 The Role of Neuroplasticity in Therapy
50:10 Quirky Stories and Insights
53:58 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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32. Unpacking Clinical Language: Eye Control and the Vestibular System
45:49|In this episode, we’re wrestling with something that comes up all the time in clinic: how do we explain the tricky clinical terms (like ocular control) to parents without losing them? We are continuing on the journey of trying to unpack language, talking about how we translate what we’re seeing in terms of ocular motor functions, vestibular contributions, and somatosensory discrimination into language that actually lands and makes sense for families. We unpack how the vestibular system and sensory discrimination play into eye movements, how modulation bumps into these issues, and how neurodevelopmental factors shape what we’re observing. Happy Listening! Check out DFX's learning journeys to sign up for our learning journeys community and take any of the courses available to build your clinical reasoning skills --> https://dfxlearningjourneys.thinkific.com/ Full transcription of our episode is available on our website. Timestamps:00:00 Introduction to Translating Clinical Concepts00:36 Challenges in Communicating Clinical Terms02:26 Navigating Clinical and Medical Spaces05:58 Understanding Ocular Motor Function08:25 Connecting Sensory Systems to Daily Life19:01 Developmental Perspectives on Sensory Integration26:19 Integrating Information for Developmental Understanding26:59 Vestibular System and Its Functions28:39 Motor Control and Its Origins30:25 Challenges with AI in Understanding Motor Skills37:20 Clinical Reasoning and Interpretation38:30 Attachment and Motor Development42:03 Connecting Threads in Therapy44:19 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions Connect with us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedconversations_ot/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spiritedconversationsOTYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spiritedconversations_OTWebsite: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/ Loved this episode and want an easy cost free way to support us? Subscribe to our youtube channel!
31. Wonder, Safety, and the Power of Showing Up
43:26|In this episode, we dive into the complexities of neurodiversity, sensory modulation, and the importance of safety and curiosity in therapy and life. Through some of our personal stories and clinical anecdotes, we explore how embracing individual differences and showing up authentically can foster resilience, learning, and connection.Resources & Mentions:Ruth Lanius and Dr. Stephen Porges (on neuroception and sensory matrix)Lois Hickman, OT, and nature-based therapyIf you enjoyed this episode, check out our Instagram for more resources and Cory’s “Spirit” rap. Keep showing up, stay curious, and embrace your own unique innate qualities!TIMESTAMPS0:00 — Introduction, no context, just starting0:08 — Hosts reflect on being non-professional communicators and podcasting0:38 — The experience of listening to yourself on a podcast0:55 — Balancing each other's communication styles1:27 — Embarrassing travel stories and trusting the process2:16 — Resilience and strengths-based language4:33 — "Neuro spicy" and personal quirks5:43 — Funny story about ADHD realization9:13 — Learning from yourself and collective learning10:19 — Embracing neurodiversity in the podcast11:41 — Recap of last episode and moving into new terminology12:47 — Discussion of neuroception and modulation14:15 — Sensory matrix and evolving language17:02 — Sensory affective dual process18:22 — Mobilization and nervous system responses21:02 — The importance of safety and curiosity in therapy29:23 — The "milk and butter" story: using curiosity and safety in therapy36:05 — Reflections on the story and its impact39:23 — The importance of following the child's lead in therapy43:58 — Wrapping up, next episode preview, and social media plug43:26 — Final thoughts and goodbyesConnect with us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedconversations_ot/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spiritedconversationsOTYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spiritedconversations_OTWebsite: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/Loved this episode and want an easy cost-free way to support us? Subscribe to our youtube channel!
30. Exploring Shared Language: Modulation and Regulation
46:07|In this episode, we delve into the complexities of sensory modulation and regulatory systems, discussing how we understand these elements and how they influence therapeutic practice. We explore the polyvagal theory, sensory modulation matrix, and how we can create shared terminology in those spaces. Through real-life examples and theoretical discussions, we bring to light the importance of precise language and shared understanding in clinical settings. The episode highlights the dynamic interplay between sensory processing, state regulation, and adaptive functions, offering insights into how therapists can better support children with diverse needs.TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Welcome Back00:17 Celebrating Learning Communities01:07 Community Feedback and Growth02:30 Discussing Terminology in Therapy04:06 Exploring Sensory Issues07:27 Precision in Clinical Language11:36 Understanding State Dependency18:17 Polyvagal Theory and Regulation Models22:07 Understanding Sensory Modulation and Regulation22:39 The Interplay of Sensory Modulation and Neuroception23:27 Linking Sensory Modulation to Treatment Plans26:06 The Role of Arousal and Autonomic States29:30 Practical Examples of Sensory Modulation35:33 Integrating Polyvagal Theory and Regulatory Capacities41:36 The Sensory Modulation Matrix43:55 Building a Shared Language in CommunitiesConnect with us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedconversations_ot/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spiritedconversationsOTYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spiritedconversations_OTWebsite: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/Loved this episode and want an easy cost-free way to support us? Subscribe to our youtube channel!
29. When Science Meets Therapy: the art of co-regulation
35:42|In this episode, we dive into a fascinating discussion about the intersection of scientific research and therapeutic practice. Tracy shares a heartfelt experience of hosting scientists at the Developmental FX clinic, where they observed therapy sessions for individuals with Fragile X syndrome, autism, and other developmental disorders. The conversation highlights the importance of integrated models of care, the subtle yet profound impact of high-quality therapy, and the critical role of co-regulation. We also reflect on the teachings of Dr. Ayers, the challenges and rewards of being a therapist, and the significance of collaborative partnerships in advancing child development.TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Greetings02:15 A Day at Developmental FX05:17 The Nuances of Therapy10:51 Challenges and Reflections17:24 The Importance of Co-Regulation22:15 Translating Theory into Practice34:07 Celebrating the Team's WorkConnect with us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedconversations_ot/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spiritedconversationsOTYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spiritedconversations_OTWebsite: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/Loved this episode and want an easy cost-free way to support us? Subscribe to our youtube channel!
28. Therapeutic Power of Playfulness
01:02:02|In this insightful episode, we explore the transformative role of play and playfulness in paediatric occupational therapy from multiple perspectives. From real-life case studies to theoretical discussions on the STEPPSI model and polyvagal theory, we uncover how play enhances child development and therapy. Learn about the challenges and triumphs therapists face in incorporating fun into clinical practice, and discover strategies for balancing playful engagement with therapeutic goals. Through stories, research, and practical tips, we highlight the profound impact of playful interactions and social dynamics in fostering growth and emotional regulation in children.00:00 Exploring Play in Child Development01:16 The Origins and Evolution of STEP SI05:24 Personal Journeys into Pediatric Occupational Therapy08:05 The Vulnerability and Joy of Play10:03 Balancing Playfulness and Professionalism20:55 Clinical Reasoning in Play-Based Therapy25:18 Playfulness vs. Play: Definitions and Applications28:45 Case Study: Attuned Play in Therapy33:19 Struggles with Play and Skill Development34:28 Letting Go of the Agenda35:30 A Breakthrough in Play38:22 The Importance of Play in Therapy39:28 Navigating Play and Regulation41:31 Personal Reflections on Play45:20 Autonomic Nervous System in Play47:15 Grandchildren and Play Dynamics53:06 Therapeutic Strategies in Play59:14 Concluding Thoughts on PlayConnect with us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedconversations_ot/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spiritedconversationsOTYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spiritedconversations_OTWebsite: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/ Loved this episode and want an easy cost-free way to support us? Subscribe to our youtube channel!
26. Following a Child's Lead.
55:18|In this episode, we delve into the often cited but widely misunderstood concept of 'Follow the Child's Lead'. Through our personal anecdotes, theoretical explorations, and practical insights, we wonder about the origins of this principle, its application across different disciplines and its pivotal role in treatment and intervention strategies. We unpack the nuances of following a child’s lead versus following a child’s need, and the profound impact of tuning into a child’s developmental trajectory for effective treatment. Join us as we dive deep into how this principle shapes our approaches to therapy and beyond, providing actionable takeaways for professionals and parents alike. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction: Exploring Treatment Principles 00:54 Deep Dive into 'Follow the Child's Lead' 02:16 Clinical Perspectives and Personal Stories 03:30 Understanding and Misunderstandings of Following the Child 05:57 Expanding on 'Follow the Child's Lead' with Clinical Insights 32:27 Exploring the Concept of Affordances in Treatment 53:29 Concluding Thoughts on Following the Child's Lead Both DFX and SEED are growing! Please message us if you are interested in joining either of our teams! <3 Check out DFX's learning journeys to build your clinical reasoning skills with Tracy --> https://dfxlearningjourneys.thinkific.com/ For information about Regulation 101 contact info@seedpaediatricservices.com Full transcription of our episode is available on our website: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedconversations_ot/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spiritedconversationsOT YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spiritedconversations_OT Loved this episode and want an easy cost free way to support us? Subscribe to our youtube channel!
25. Sensory Over Responsive and Sensory Diets
56:18|This episode is a detailed conversation about sensory modulation and its application in the field of occupational therapy. It examines various types of behaviours connected to sensory modulation and provides a thorough explanation of how to support individuals dealing with these behaviours. We discuss the intricacies of sensory modulation, particularly sensory over-responsiveness and under-responsiveness, sensory diets, and the impact of arousal and autonomic functions on sensory modulation. Key ideas include distinguishing between positive and negative valence responses, strategies for regulation and recovery, and the role of safety in sensory modulation. 00:00 Introduction and Updates on Training Programs01:14 Addressing Listener Questions: Sensory Modulation and Language02:12 Understanding Sensory Modulation and Behavioural Outcomes04:43 The Complexity of Sensory Modulation and Its Impact on Treatment08:48 The Importance of Differentiating Sensory Modulation Issues09:29 The Role of Neurological Structures in Sensory Modulation10:17 The Influence of Autonomic Functions on Sensory Modulation11:04 Understanding the Behavioural Outcomes of Sensory Modulation11:34 The Importance of Precise Differentiation in Sensory Concepts13:57 The Role of Sensory Modulation in Adaptive Function16:05 The Impact of Sensory Modulation on Treatment18:07 The Role of Safety in Sensory Modulation20:12 The Importance of Understanding Sensory Modulation in Treatment38:10 The Role of Sensory Diets in Treatment43:50 Conclusion: The Future of Sensory Modulation TreatmentFull Transcript Available on our website: https://www.spiritedconversationspodcast.com/ Don’t forget you can take the Spirit and STEPPSI Course through DFX's learning journeys: https://dfxlearningjourneys.thinkific.com/ For other courses on offer through Seed, email us for more information:info@seedpaediatricservices.com
24. Interoception with KIM BARTHEL
01:06:22|This is our first ever Guest Episode, and who better to talk to than Kim Barthel!!In this episode we continue to discuss interoception and making sense of this in treatment. We had a glitch with our video feed this episode so it’s audio only, but we so very excited to finally share this. Our conversation covers many levels, from trying to understand and discern interoception vs neuroception, to understanding interoceptive processing with clinical practice examples and hopefully offers everyone new insights into how we can support individuals with different interoceptive needs.Kim is currently touring the world and we’re very excited to say is headed to Australia to offer a number of unmissable live, in-person events. You can check out the full list of possible workshops here: https://www.kimbarthel.ca/event-calendar You can catch and connect with Kim online in a number of places:https://www.facebook.com/KimBarthelOTR/https://www.instagram.com/kimbarthel.ca/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8PsNYNlakx1qx0BCqTg5w?view_as=subscriber Don’t forget you can take the Spirit and STEPPSI Course through DFX's learning journeys: https://dfxlearningjourneys.thinkific.com/ For other courses on offer through Seed, follow our link or email us for more information:https://seedot.thinkific.com/courses/regulation-101info@seedpaediatricservices.com