Somewhere To Believe In


Exile with Rafeef Ziadah

Season 2, Ep. 8
In our final episode in this series, we talk to Palestinian spoken word artist, human rights activist and our new favourite politics teacher, Rafeef Ziadah.We dig into poetry, art, trauma, displacement, equality and justice as Rafeef shares her experiences of being a third-generation Palestinian refugee, exiled from her home and now living in London. Rafeef reminds us that issues like climate change and the pandemic do not respect borders, which makes us reflect on the entire ‘nation-state’ system.Above all, Rafeef tells us of the strength she gets from the Palestinian people whose resolve and resilience is undiminished despite great challenges, and who continue to tell their stories and create art in the face of occupation.Plus, Katherine and Paul reflect on their first year of podcasting and Katherine’s new favourite hobby.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT RAFEEFRafeef is a Palestinian spoken word artist and human rights activist based in London, UK. Her performances of poems like ‘We Teach Life, Sir’ and ‘Shades of Anger’ went viral within days of release. Her live readings offer a moving blend of poetry and music. Since releasing her first album, Rafeef has headlined prestigious performance venues across several countries with powerful readings on war, exile, gender and racism. Her long awaited third album Three Generations is out December 2020. It can be pre-ordered here: Teach Life, her second album, was a powerful collection of spoken word with original music compositions, which she brings to the stage with Australian guitarist and producer Phil Monsour. Rafeef received the Ontario Arts Council Grant from the Word of Mouth programme to create her debut spoken-word album Hadeel. She regularly conducts spoken word workshops with the aim of empowering expression through writing and performance.Website | Spotify | Itunes | Facebook | Twitter____LINKS AND RESOURCESThree GenerationsBandcampPassportNakba 1948: Ethnic Cleansing of Cities, Towns and VillagesPalestinian Writers FestivalWe Teach Life SirPalestine Music ExpoEdward Said National Conservatory of MusicMade in PalestineIf my wordsThe Walled Off Hotel - BanksyJesus Was Not in a Stable Relationship - Pádraig Ó Tuama in conversation with Paul Northup____00:00 - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:19 - Katherine and Paul catch up04:00 - Introducing Rafeef Ziadah and her work10:30 - Rafeef joins the conversation10:47 - Rafeef on lockdown ‘Three Generations’15:50 - Rafeef on being a Palestinian refugee17:35 - Rafeef on art and activism19:02 - Rafeef on being stateless 21:02 - Rafeef on changing the world22:50 - Rafeef on politics and social movements26:45 - Rafeef on building a movement29:00 - Rafeef on responses to her work32:10 - Rafeef on writing and performing poetry34:09 - Rafeef on being denied the right of return to Palestine35:50 - Rafeef on the wall38:06 - Rafeef on profit and power over people39:25 - Rafeef on the US election and Trump44:37 - Rafeef on the pandemic in Gaza46:23 - Rafeef on Palestinian resolve and resistance48:09 - Rafeef on the Christmas story50:10 - Rafeef on hope 50:45 - Rafeef on burnout 52:28 - Rafeef on how to support her work53:19 - Rafeef on Greenbelt Festival53:52 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Rafeef01:08:16 - How to get in touch with us01:08:37 - Thank you’s01:09:40 - Hidden track____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Humanity with Ben Caplan

Season 2, Ep. 7
This week we connect with Canadian singer-songwriter and theatre-maker Ben Caplan. Ben joins us from the car park of a Canadian fast-food giant called Tim Hortons, en route to play a socially distanced gig as part of the Small Halls Festival in Ottawa.We get all the deets about life and lockdown in Canada. Ben has praise for his government’s response to the pandemic – in stark contrast to what we’ve heard from other artists both here in the UK and elsewhere. We talk about Ben’s identity as a Jewish man, his experiences of antisemitism, and how growing up with Jewish values like tikkun olam (literally “repair of the world”) inspires him to make art that leaves a smile on our faces and a question in our hearts.Plus, after recovering from the shock of hearing someone talk so positively about their government, Katherine and Paul reflect on how heartfelt and eloquent Ben is, which gives us an idea about how we can fix this mess... #BenCaplanForPrimeMinister.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT BENBen Caplan is a songwriter, performer and entertainer in the most time-honoured sense of the word. From the moment he walks onto the stage, you are filled with his infectious spirit, and captivating presence. You can feel Caplan's comfort and ease as he strides in front of the crowd and begins the controlled collective descent into chaos.In his latest project, Ben Caplan explores themes of immigration, loss, darkness, love, sex, and God. Caplan is touring with a fresh batch of songs which were originally composed for a new musical play called Old Stock: A Refugee Love Story. The award winning play had its international debut at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival where it won top festival honours, and has been a smash hit. The play has toured internationally including a seven-week run Off Broadway where it picked up a New York Times Critic's Pick, and six Drama Desk Award nominations, among other accolades.WebsiteFacebookInstagramTwitter____FEATURED TRACKSO Holy Night by Ben Caplan (12:01)Fledgling by Ben Caplan (21:35)Plough the Shit by Ben Caplan (28:40)Truth Doesn’t Live in a Book by Ben Caplan (45:20)The Happy People by Ben Caplan (50:57)-Podcast theme - I Can Change by Lee Bains III & The Glory FiresLINKS AND RESOURCESThe Festival of Small HallsOld stock: A refugee Love StoryPogromsTikkun Olam: Repairing the WorldInvestigation into antisemitism in the Labour PartyIsrael's Benjamin Netanyahu: Commando turned PMThe TalmudWebsiteWebstoreBowling for Columbine____00:00 - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:20 - Katherine and Paul catch up05:30 - Introducing Ben Caplan and his work06:03 - Ben joins the conversation07:51 - Ben on the pandemic in Canada09:56 - Ben on slowing down 12:01 - ‘O Holy Night’ by Ben Caplan12:50 - Ben on support for the arts in Canada15:33 - Ben on creativity16:29 - Ben on his inspirations18:05 - Ben on refugees21:35 - ‘Fledgling’ by Ben Caplan22:40 - Ben on the power of art25:40 - Ben on finding moments of joy26:20 - Ben on telling stories of massacres28:40 - ‘Plough the Shit’ by Ben Caplan30:18 - Ben on Judaism31:45 - Ben on anti-semitism40:47 - Ben on literalist readings of religious texts45:20 - ‘Truth Doesn’t Live in a Book’ by Ben Caplan46:23 - Ben on commercial music48:30 - Ben on performing49:41 - Ben on brokenness50:57 - ‘The Happy People’ by Ben Caplan51:20 - Ben on Greenbelt Festival54:20 - Ben on what he would retrain as56:56 - Ben on how to support his work59:08 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Ben1:10:07 - Coming up next week1:10:27 - How to get in touch with us1:11:06 - Thank you’s1:11:30 - Hidden track____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Punk with Dream Nails

Season 2, Ep. 6
On the podcast this week Katherine and Paul welcome Mimi and Lucy from “queer, feminist, punk-witch band” Dream Nails.We discuss what it means to be punk – in the cliched sense but also in the Dream Nails sense, which includes: writing badass music, creating safe gig spaces where everyone can dance without fear, shouting ‘women and non-binary people to the front’ at the start of every show and placing hexes on the patriarchy; all done with an immense amount of joy.Describing themselves as ‘four punk witches from London’, we take the opportunity to summon an old Greenbelt tale about the year “the white witch” came to the field and the subsequent fallout. (Spoiler alert: some people weren’t that happy about it.)Plus, inspired by Dream Nails’ ‘Gig In a Box’ (complete with a handmade sticky floor tile so you can recreate that small-venue experience at home), Katherine and Paul wonder what a ‘Greenbelt In a Box’ might look like.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT DREAM NAILSDream Nails are a punk force to be reckoned with. Founded by feminist activists in 2015, their debut album garnered 4/5 stars from NME, DIY and Kerrang!The female four-piece have built a reputation across the UK, Europe and Scandinavia for their ‘fierce talent and furious energy’ (Guardian). Dream Nails have taken their riotous live shows on tour with Cherry Glazerr, Bleached and Petrol Girls. In 2019 they headlined Glastonbury's Sisterhood stage for the third consecutive time.Dream Nails are PRS foundation and PPL Momentum 2020 artists. Having won support from Steve Lamacq, Tom Robinson and Amy Lame (BBC6), Huw Stephens and Jack Saunders (Radio 1), John Kennedy (XFM), and glowing coverage in Billboard, DIY, Upset, Independent, Guardian, VICE, Dazed, NYLON, Clash, i-D, The Skinny and Frieze, Dream Nails’ energy and youthful power promise to set your soul on fire.BandcampInstagramTwitterFacebook____FEATURED TRACKSPayback (25:55)DIY by Dream Nails (30:22)Vagina Police by Dream Nails (46:24)Big Dyke Energy by Dream Nails (55:57)-Podcast theme - I Can Change by Lee Bains III & The Glory FiresLINKS AND RESOURCESDream NailsFeministmas & Gig In a BoxCOVID-19: Shops to open 24 hours a day to boost high street pandemic recoveryPoverty in the Pandemic: the Impact of Coronavirus on Low-income Families and ChildrenGood Night OutRiot Grrrl movementSisters UncutHex the Patriarchy patchAbortion Support NetworkLonely Star (Christmas Song) by Dream Nails2young4punks - Don Letts at Greenbelt Festival 2011Greenbelt at 40 (featuring the year of the witch and the willies)____TAKE ACTIONDonate to Abortion Support Network____00:00 - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:20 - Katherine and Paul catch up09:38 - Introducing Dream Nails and their work10:48 - Dream Nails join the conversation11:50 - Dream Nails on releasing their debut album during lockdown13:54 - Dream Nails on not being able to play live15:52 - Dream Nails on community17:36 - Dream Nails on ‘women and non-binary people to the front’24:07 - Dream Nails on activism and resilience25:28 - ‘Payback’ by Dream Nails26:26 - Dream Nails on their music29:50 - Dream Nails on affirmations30:22 - ‘DIY’ by Dream Nails30:55 - Dream Nails on pushback33:35 - Dream Nails on punk36:29 - Dream Nails on self-care39:32 - Dream Nails on witches45:51 - Dream Nails on Greenbelt Festival46:24 - ‘Vagina Police’ by Dream Nails49:08 - Dream Nails on Abortion Support Network52:47 - Dream Nails on Trump55:57 - ‘Big Dyke Energy’ by Dream Nails56:40 - Dream Nails on what’s coming up59:13 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Dream Nails01:15:45 - Coming up next week01:16:30 - How to get in touch with us01:17:18 - Thank you’s01:17:58 - Hidden track____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Opportunity with Testament

Season 2, Ep. 5
This week we’re talking to “jack of all trades, master of ceremonies” Testament: hip-hop MC, writer, theatre-maker and world-record-breaking human beatboxer.Listen in as Testament discusses his cultural upbringing, including his love of De La Soul as well as the Pet Shop Boys, along with his theory why Glee is not only prophetic, but “the real hip-hop”.Testament gets real with Paul and Katherine about his own faith, feminism and social justice work. Including his attempts as a rebellious teenager to ‘out-Christian’ his parents, and his acceptance nowadays of his own vulnerability and ‘brokenness’ as a way to help others reflect on their own lives.He also belatedly apologises for accidentally stabbing his older brother in his hand with a compass when they were growing up, but that’s another story…Meanwhile, Katherine and Paul get excited about Dolly Parton’s covid vaccine and have a go at guessing what’s inside Dominic Cummings’ cardboard box.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT TESTAMENTTestament is a Hip-Hop MC, writer, theatre maker and world record breaking human beatboxer. Born in North London and growing up in Manchester, moving on to study in West Yorkshire where he currently resides. As a lyricist his critically acclaimed work combines strands of rap, song and spoken word. Testament’s work includes the celebrated Hip-Hop album Homecut: No Freedom Without Sacrifice, as well as several spoken word performances for BBC TV and BBC Radio (1xtra, Radio 4 and 6Music). More recently, 2019 he was Channel 4 Writer in Residence at Royal Exchange Theatre Manchester.WebsiteInstagramTwitterFacebook____LINKS AND RESOURCESTestament’s websiteDominic Cummings and his cardboard boxDolly Parton VaccineOrpheus in the Record ShopPeace JamThe Romantics and Us with Simon SchamaTestament And William BlakeWokeTestament’s interview with Leroy LoganLeroy Logan and Testament in conversation - Podcast____00:00 - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:20 - Katherine and Paul catch up08:39 - Introducing Testament and his work09:22 - Testament joins the conversation09:50 - Testament on lockdown11:34 - Testament on Orpheus in the record shop14:55 - Testament on creativity23:28 - Testament on Peace Jam27:45 - Testament on Desmond Tutu 28:50 - Testament on faith, dogma and trying ‘out-Christian’ everyone32:16 - Testament on Greenbelt Festival34:10 - Testament on ego and social justice37:06 - Testament on classic and contemporary art40:33 - Testament on ‘Woke’ and feminism 47:42 - Testament on racial justice52:10 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Testament01:06:00 - Coming up next week 01:07:54 - How to get in touch with us01:08:08 - Thank you’s01:08:36 - Hidden track____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Democracy with Natalia Kaliada

Season 2, Ep. 4
This week’s podcast episode is a very important one, so let’s get straight to it. Katherine and Paul speak to writer, human rights campaigner, political refugee, theatre-maker and ‘public enemy’ to Alexander Lukashenko’s regime in Belarus, Natalia Kaliada.Natalia is a founding Co-Artistic Director of Belarus Free Theatre, a collective of artists who use the power of theatre to fight for democracy in Belarus and oppose what’s known as ‘the last dictatorship in Europe’.We hear about Natalia’s own experiences living a not-so-censored life under an oppressive regime. Including her exile to London and how she continues to fight the same fight her ancestors did (her grandfather survived German concentration camps and Soviet gulags before ever Alexander Lukashenko came to dictatorial rule in his beloved Belarus). Resistance is seemingly in her DNA.Natalia shares the stories of the Belarus protesters, 15,000 of whom have been imprisoned, raped or killed by the Belarus government this year. We hear how theatre has helped some of them through their imprisonment and how Belarus Free Theatre continues to use art as a tool to take down the dictatorship.Katherine and Paul reflect on the importance of this conversation and how now, more than ever, we need to stand with the people of Belarus; not just to demand democracy for them, but to actively protect democracy around the world for everyone.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT NATALIANatalia Kaliada is a founding Co-Artistic Director of Belarus Free Theatre as well as a writer, human rights campaigner and producer and is one of the most outspoken critics of Belarus’s repressive regime.Belarus Free Theatre was founded in 2005 in Europe's last surviving dictatorship, by Natalia Kaliada and Nicolai Khalezin. BFT’s performances take place in selected secret venues around Minsk with audiences alerted to their existence by text message or e-mail. Although forced to operate under cover within Belarus, the Theatre has travelled widely and has gained a growing international reputation. They continue to create exceptional theatre under near impossible conditions underground in Belarus. The company has found a home as associate artists of the Young Vic, London.Natalia Kaliada has been detained, arrested without access to counsel and threatened with rape for her participation in peaceful rallies that were called “subversive” activities and “unstable elements” by the Belarusian authorities. After the tragic events in Belarus in 2010, she and her husband were smuggled out of Belarus and now live in exile in London.Website: Instagram: @belarusfreetheatreFacebook: @belarusfreetheatreTwitter: @BFreeTheatre____TAKE ACTIONSupport Belarus Free Theatre’m with the Banned your local MP to add “major scumbags” who support Lukashenko’s regime to a sanctions list so their assets will be frozen.____LINKS AND RESOURCESBelarus Free Theatre Of Counterculture is long-time leader Alexander Lukashenko? is Svetlana Tikhanovskaya? Lukashenko on Coronavirus on Bruatility in Belarus bans two opposition candidates Balaklava Blues Blues at Greenbelt Jeans Harold Pinter Forest Love Cuisine Doors of Europe thousands protest against death of teacher in police custody Protest Art Just Propaganda? Or is All Art a Form of Protest? - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In01:00 - Introducing Natalia and the work do Belarus Free Theatre05:36 - Natalia joins the conversation06:44 - Natalia on Belarus Free Theatre11:20 - Natalia on generations of resistance16:12 - Natalia on a lifetime of fighting for democracy21:50 - Natalia on western democracy and dictatorship29:24 - Natalia on 2020 in Belarus41:11 - Natalia on theatre as protest49:07 - How to support Belarus Free Theatre51:36 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Natalia1:05:40 - Coming up next week 1:06:09 - How to get in touch with us1:06:56 - Thank you’s1:07:29 - Hidden track____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Stories with Muneera Pilgrim

Season 2, Ep. 3
In the third episode of our second podcast series, Katherine and Paul welcome Bristol-based poet, theatre-maker and powerful storyteller, Muneera Pilgrim.We hear about Muneera’s experiences growing up as a black woman in Bristol – and what it means for her to finally see the statue of you-know-who toppled. We also talk about Muneera’s unexpected faith journey: from repeatedly falling in and out of love with her Caribbean Christian roots, to eventually finding her home in Islam.Above all else, Muneera’s infectious belief in the ability for art and storytelling to transform our lives gives us a much-needed shot of hope.Meanwhile, Katherine and Paul can’t help but laugh over the absurdity that is ‘Four Seasons Total Landscaping’, and we find out what Shakespeare, crosswords and scripture have in common.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT MUNEERAMuneera Pilgrim is a poet, cultural producer, writer and broadcaster, as well as co-founder of the Muslim female spoken word and hip-hop duos Poetic Pilgrimage and Nana Collective. Muneera conducts expressive-based, purpose-driven workshops, shares art, guest lectures, hosts and finds alternative ways to educate and exchange ideas. She regularly contributes to Pause for Thought on BBC Radio 2, and she is currently an Associate Artist with The English Touring Theatre where she contributed to The Othello Project, and is writing a project that will be revealed in 2020.Instagram: @muneera_pilgrimTwitter: @MuniPilgrim____LINKS AND RESOURCESEdward Colston statue toppled in Bristol Have Nothing On Us by Muneera Pilgrim Thomas Creative Response - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:20 - Katherine and Paul catch up09:35 - Introducing Muneera Pilgrim and her work10:24 - Muneera joins the conversation10:35 - Muneera on Bristol15:00 - Muneera on lockdown and inequality 18:13 - Muneera on storytelling20:40 - Muneera on her influences24:10 - Muneera on creativity25:35 - Muneera on Marlon Thomas29:18 - Muneera on faith and race34:33 - Muneera on Islam38:05 - Muneera on spirituality40:40 - Muneera on Greenbelt44:26 - Muneera on Othello47:18 - Muneera on art51:58 - Muneera on hope and motivation55:00 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Muneera01:05:39 - Coming up next week 01:06:18 - How to get in touch with us01:06:55 - Thank you’s____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Resilience with Josie Long

Season 2, Ep. 2
This week on the podcast we’re beyond excited to welcome the hilarious comedian and all-round lovely person, Josie Long.We hear about Josie’s unique journey into comedy, beginning aged just 14. And how she’s determined to extend the olive branch of opportunity to the next generation of young creatives. Needless to say, we talk about the current government's support (or lack thereof) for the creative industries and why she’s decided she’s had enough and is moving to Scotland.Plus, Paul and Josie have a fan-girl moment over our unofficial resident Geographer, Danny Dorling. While Katherine gives you her two cents about how to be a successful dictator.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____ABOUT JOSIEOften described as a unique voice in comedy, Josie is one of the most respected comedians of her generation. She started stand-up at age 14 and went on to win the BBC New Comedy Award. She has continued to perform stand-up around the world and her eighth solo stand-up show, Something Better, had a sell-out two weeks at the Soho Theatre in London, followed by a two-week run at the Barrow Street Theatre New York. Josie has been nominated for the coveted Best Show award at the Edinburgh Fringe three times. Her latest show, Tender, is touring the U.K. in 2020. On TV and radio, Josie has appeared on The News Quiz, Just A Minute, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Skins, 8 out of 10 Cats, and Drunk History. Josie has also worked extensively in factual areas including The Culture Show on BBC2 and as the presenter and writer of Radio 4’s Short Cuts. Josie wrote and starred in the film Super November, directed by Douglas King. The film was nominated for The Discovery Award in the 2018 BIFAs.Website: Instagram: @josielongFacebook: @josie.i.longTwitter: @josielong____LINKS AND RESOURCESArts Emergency Book Shambles with Robin Ince and Josie long & Jonny Are Having a Baby (With You!) & The Baptists at Greenbelt - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:22 - Katherine and Paul catch up06:41 - Introducing Josie Long and her work08:23 - Josie joins the conversation08:23 - Josie on lockdown 11:34 - Josie on performing online14:49 - Josie on productivity15:46 - Josie on government arts funding18:03 - Josie on how she got into comedy20:10 - Josie on her inspirations21:36 - Josie on learning from others24:28 - Josie on Arts Emergency26:57 - Josie on the value of art29:12 - Josie on anger and despair34:56 - Josie on politics36:43 - Josie on small venues vs stadiums40:45 - Josie on offence45:44 - Josie on religion46:25 - Josie on Greenbelt Festival50:03 - Josie on hopefulness 52:11 - How to support Josie55:43 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Josie01:03:42 - How to get in touch with us01:04:23 - Thank you’s____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Power with Lee Bains

Season 2, Ep. 1
Welcome to the second series of Somewhere To Believe In! We’re back by popular demand(ish). This time around we’re coming together to celebrate and hear from artists we love – and we hope you’ll love them too.Who better to kick things off than Lee Bains of Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires, a self-proclaimed ‘deep-south wide-open far-left liberation gospel’ Rock-N-Roll band from Alabama, USA. Lee and his band are on a mission to fight against white supremacy, xenophobia and systems of power, all while bringing their southern hospitality and charm to the table.With the US elections looming, we hear what it’s like being Christian living under a government that so regularly weaponises the Bible to justify inhuman behavior. Lee gives us a much-needed reminder about the power of the people, making us wonder if the election results matter as much as we think they do. We also get introspective and hear how slowing down has made Lee tackle some big questions about who he really is and what he’s trying to do with his music.Meanwhile, Katherine and Paul talk about our plans for the 2021 festival and - and we can’t stress the importance of this enough - how happy Katherine’s mum will be that we’re back with a second series of the podcast.Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.____SUPPORT LEE BAINS III & THE GLORY FIRESWebsite: Merch: Bandcamp: Instagram: @gloryfiresFacebook: @thegloryfiresTwitter: @TheGloryFires____LINKS AND RESOURCESAngela Davis Roy Park statue Bains III & The Glory Fires - Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In00:42 - Coming up in this series02:32 - Katherine and Paul catch up05:26 - Katherine and Paul on Greenbelt Festival 202106:17 - Introducing Lee Bains and his work08:34 - Lee joins the conversation09:06 - Lee on Greenbelt Festival12:56 - Lee on this year and Covid-1915:42 - Lee on government support in America20:37 - Lee on independent music venues24:38 - Lee on not being able to tour27:47 - Lee on activism and burn out33:13 - Lee on people, systems and policing36:10 - Lee on church and power38:09 - Lee on the power of music42:49 - Lee on success51:00 - Lee on the US election52:15 - Lee on anti-racist rallies and activism in Atlanta 56:00 - Lee on how to support Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires57:13 - Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Lee01:02:58 - Katherine and Paul on the future of music venues01:06:20 - Katherine and Paul on church and power01:08:50 - How to get in touch with us01:09:42 - Thank you’s01:10:24 - Hidden track ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires____A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.____

Everybody Now

Season 1, Ep. 9
Greenbelt Festival is proud to be taking part in Everybody Now.We’ve caused a turning point in the Earth’s natural history. Everybody Now is a podcast about what it means to be human on the threshold of a global climate emergency, in a time of systemic injustice and runaway pandemics. Scientists, activists, farmers, poets, and theologians talk bravely and frankly about how our biosphere is changing, about grief and hope in an age of social collapse and mass extinction, and about taking action against all the odds.On 19th October 2020, Everybody Now is being released by podcasters all over the world as a collective call for awareness, grief and loving action.With contributions from:Dr. Gail Bradbrook - scientist and co-founder of Extinction RebellionProf. Kevin Anderson - Professor of Energy and Climate Change at the University of ManchesterDámaris Albuquerque - works with agricultural communities in NicaraguaDr. Rowan Williams - theologian and poet, and a former Archbishop of CanterburyPádraig Ó Tuama - poet, theologian and conflict mediatorRachel Mander - environmental activist with Hope for the FutureJohn Swales - priest and activist, and part of a community for marginalised peopleZena Kazeme - Persian-Iraqi poet who draws on her experiences as a former refugee to create poetry that explores themes of exile, home, war and heritageFlo Brady - singer and theatre makerHannah Malcolm - Anglican ordinand, climate writer and organiserAlastair McIntosh - writer, academic and land rights activistDavid Benjamin Blower - musician, poet and podcasterFunding and Production:This podcast was crowdfunded by a handful of good souls, and produced by Tim Nash and David Benjamin BlowerPermissions:The song Happily by Flo Brady is used with permission.The song The Soil, from We Really Existed and We Really Did This by David Benjamin Blower, used with permission.The Poem The Tree of Knowledge by Pádraig Ó Tuama used with permission.The Poem Atlas by Zena Kazeme used with permission.The Poem What is Man? by Rowan Williams from the book The Other Mountain, used with permission from Carcanet Press.