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Skinwalkers at the Pentagon with George Knapp and Colm Kelleher

Season 1, Ep. 265

On episode 265 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, we welcome investigative journalist, George Knapp, and microbiologist, Colm A. Kelleher. They are the co-authors, along with James T. Lacatski, of Skinwalkers at the Pentagon: An Insiders' Account of the Secret Government UFO Program. Officially reviewed by the U.S. Department of Defense and cleared for public release, this is a follow-up to their 2005 book, Hunt for the Skinwalker. This new book unmasks the massive scope of the Pentagon’s landmark UFO study that ran from the Defense Intelligence Agency, The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program, or AAWSAP, which investigated the “Tic Tac” and other “nuts and bolts” UFO events. The program also probed the plethora of bizarre phenomena that government investigators encountered on Skinwalker Ranch. By the end of the two-year program, more than a hundred separate technical reports, some of which ran to hundreds of pages, were delivered to the Defense Intelligence Agency. Today, Knapp and Kelleher detail some of those findings, discuss aspects of the book nobody has asked them about yet, and then answer listener questions.


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