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Interview with Gabrielle Gelderman about Climate Grief Chaplaincy
In this episode of Solarpunk Presents, nonfiction co-editor Ariel Kroon sits down for a virtual chat with Gabrielle Gelderman, an Edmonton, Alberta-based climate grief chaplain and climate justice organizer. They talk about what climate grief chaplaincy even is, the necessity of holding communal safe spaces for grieving especially for organizers, the necessity of feeling grief in order to feel more positive emotions, and climate despair as a corollary of solarpunk hope.
Links:
Gabrielle's Instagram: @theclimatechaplain
Gabrielle’s LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/gabthechaplain
Sunrise Youth Organization (US)
*Note: During the interview, Ariel mentions episode 4.30 of Secret Feminist Agenda; the name of the theorist she cites is Eugenia Zuroski.
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Connect with Ariel at her blog, on Twitter at @arielletje, and on Mastodon @arielkroon@wandering.shop
Connect with Christina at her blog, on Twitter @xtinadlr, and on Mastodon @xtinadlr@wandering.shop
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5. Why Are Hopeful Stories Still So Hard to Write?
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3. Stop Greed, Build Green
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1. Has Solarpunk Become Too Aesthetic?
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7. SO[L.A.]RPUNK
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6. DEI, Education, and a Solarpunk Future
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