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The Jump Ship Edition

Hosts Felix Salmon of Fusion, Cathy O'Neil, author of Weapons of Math Destruction, and Slate Moneybox columnist Jordan Weissmann, discuss:America’s about-face on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal and what that means for the country. How Citigroup and Wells Fargo were caught giving homeowners “the runaround.”Cathy’s announcement that she’ll be leaving Slate Money soon (yes, we’re as sad as you are).

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