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A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhSee Also is 100! But you'd never tell because we moisturise. Thank you for listening to and enjoying the pod – it's a pleasure to bring you silly-smart conversations every week.Also celebrating their birthdays this week are Sofia Coppola – who turned 53 on Tuesday – and her debut feature The Virgin Suicides, which came out 25 years ago. To mark two of these three occasions (guess which), Kate and Brodie go deep on the Lisbon sisters and the boys who loved them.Even if you're seen the film a million times, it holds up to a re-watch – trust us.We cover the Eugenides BTS cynicism, Hartnett at his prime, Trip's gay dad(s), the time Brodie met Kathleen Turner, memory's flimsy logic and the time Kate first tried Pepsi Max, the comedy Sofia never gets credit for and the image-making she's so skilled at, the boys who'll always remember and the girls who were never really theirs/there.See Alsos“The Virgin Suicides” Still Holds the Mysteries of Adolescence by Emma Cline“They Hadn’t Heard Us Calling” by Megan AbbottWhy I’m obsessed with this dark, dreamy novel" by Dizz TateSofia Coppola’s Bedrooms by Katie McDonoughScores on Screen. Clouds Up: Air and the Soundtrack of "The Virgin Suicides" by Clare Nina NorelliJosh Hartnett on THE kissDan Levy's story of visiting the set Kiki in Interview in 2000Sofia Coppola x Tavi Gevinson in RookieTavi Gevinson on The Virgin Suicides in NPR in 2012Bill Owens book 'Suburbia'Idea LTDAir will play Moon Safari at the Sydney Opera House for VIVID

Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to hear an extended version of this week's episode, featuring our off-the-cuff Met Gala reactions.This episode opens with a live review of the Hailey Bieber smoothie from Erewhon. Jinxy's sipping her way across LA, and fills us in on brunch at Canter's, an iconic but annoying day out with Angelyne at the Pleasure Chest, and an enviable visit to Noodle Stories. She's hit the Vanderpump Triangle in WeHo – but only to Bottega Louie, not TomTom (yet).BL goes deep on a night with Niall Horan and a life-changing day at SPUDFEST in Trentham. Is she the spudman after all?Then it's time for a discussion of our favourite Highsmith menacing gay, Tom Ripley, and the latest Netflix iteration of the guy who "likes" "girls", from creator/writer Steve Zaillan.See AlsosThe Garden Against Time by Olivia LaingThe American Friend (1977) by Wim WendersThe Night OfAlso AlsosHere in the Pitch by Jessica PrattHacks season 3 (on Stan in Australia)Ed Ruscha / Now Then retrospective at LACMASoft Services Software UpdateVegethreads Organic classic TArchive No. 1 by Hattie Stewart (with an intro by Brodie!)

This week, Kate and Brodie debrief on a bodybuilding competition (where is a delt?), Dopesick (what even is it?), Kate didn't DJ a sex party but did go to The Almighty Sometimes at MTC, Brodie tries to explain who Jerrod Carmichael is and wrote the latest Good Weekend cover story on Angourie Rice.Then, we discuss the disgraceful new Amy Winehouse biopic Back to Black, a debrief on the massive, overwhelming and excellent Alex Garland film Civil War.Skip from 35:08 – 55:43 for Civil War spoilers.See AlsoAmy (2015) by Asif KapadiaMark Ronson on working with Amy WinehouseNew Yorker Critics at Large episode on Civil WarKirsten Dunst in VarietyKirsten Dunst on choosing roles with female directors Men (2022)Power of the Dog (2021)Also AlsosHate Read, anonymous essays in Deez LinksSteve! on Apple TV+Robe 3–in-1: Clean & Finish haircareCosRX Good Morning Low-pH Gel CleanserAutumn Also playlist Get your flu and booster vaxx!!

It was only a matter of time.In this re-release of a classic Poodle episode, Kate and Brodie come together to discuss Girlfriends, Claudia Weill's directorial debut from 1978, and an absolutely perfect film. Co-written by Vicki Polon, it starts Melanie Mayron as Susan Weinblatt, who has a perfect face and spends her days shooting bar mitzvahs and waiting for her big, artistic break in late-'70s New York City. When her best friend and roommate, Anne (Anita Skinner), a writer, gets married and moves out of their apartment, Susan searches for ways to repair her loneliness. She meets Eric (a hunky young Christopher Guest), grows close to Rabbi Aaron Gold (Eli Wallach), brings home a hitchhiker named Ceil (Amy Wright) and tries to bridge the distance by spending time upstate with Anne and her husband, Martin (Bob Balaban). A film about friendship, making art and platonic love, Girlfriends is so much more than the sum of its parts and a tidy plot summary. Seek it out as soon as you can!See AlsosBL's piece in the GuardianStanley Kubrick interviewTurner Classic Movies intro to GirlfriendsClaudia Weill speaking about Girlfriends at BAM, BFI and UCLA; on Criterion and Bobbie Wygant.Millie De Chirico's podcast I Saw What You Did with Danielle HendersonWatch AlsoJoyce at 34 (See Also for us!!)It's My TurnCrossing Delancey

Head on over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso to join the Hogg Hive for an ad-free, extended version of this episode!This week, Brodie is joined by Isobel Beech, the author of a true See Also FAVE book Sunbathing, to discuss the work of another a fellow auteur, Jennifer Lopez. Issy is trying to start a movement, and spread the word about JLo's "feature film" This Is Me … Now and its companion making-of documentary The Greatest Love Story Never Told. So consider this episode activism.We discuss the way she handles mud, her obsession with "The Block", how insuring your butt was 2000s culture, the "Zodiacal Council", and everyone dressing like they're extras on Younger. Brodie pitches a Freaky Friday reboot with her and JLo, and Issy declares, "There's nothing that JLo does that can't be done by someone else" … except this movie!!!See AlsoBuy a copy of SunbathingPop Stars vs the attention economyWesley Morris on This Is Me … NowAlso AlsosSinus irrigationBeautician and the BeastReality DayAmy Odell's newsletter Back RowMariah Carey's 2018 album CautionGet Right, JLo's 2001 single

Get your tickets for our encore screening of GIRLFRIENDS now!Right in with RHONY news: they're all back, minus Cass Bird. BL had an aborted trip to Sircuit, visited country Victoria again and tries to explain a techno event collab slash dinner that gets Very Melbourne. And Jinxy spent Easter going The Most Sydney: on a boat. Also: Girls 5Eva is Kate's favourite band.Go see Zoe Coombs Marr's show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life.Then, we discuss the end (?) of the TradWife, and follow its threads into "DIML" content, the flattening of a life for clicks and what happens when all an audience can wonder about it is "where'd you get it?" We talk about hiding our content, out-of-pocket DMs and why subscribing for specific content is good, actually?Speaking of: Members of the Hogg Hive get a bonus segment this week, recapping how we went with our plans for Q1.Join to hear it + every episode, ad-free!See AlsoPalm Royale cocktail guideThe Rise and Fall of the Trad Wife by Sophie ElmhirstAlison Roman's newsletter entry on "recommendation culture"Also AlsosExpatsCeremonia Guava Rescue SprayJessica Pratt's mix for NTS: RHYTHM ON THE WESTMatéo sodaRead your own libraryWeTransfer presents: The Day I Met Bjork. Photographs by Spike JonzeFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast

This week, Kate and Brodie have been tootin' around regional Victoria. Jinxy gives a scene report of the local weirdo's bazaar in Chewton, and BL recaps her spending at the Alba Hot Springs restaurant. A quick Top Chef (show, not dog) update, recommendation for the rom-com Upgraded and a(nother) discussion of the wild decisions that went into the film Anyone But You.Then: biceps up. It's LOVE LIES BLEEDING TIME! To avoid spoilers, skip from 24:28 – 54:22We discuss the audience reaction, the pulpy energy, the merch (and missed opportunities), the macho sluts, Anna Baryshnikov comedy genius, Jenna Malone perfect casting, the better Franco brother, Ed Harris's hair. And Brodie, shockingly, explains the plot of Stepmom to Kate.See AlsoLove Lies Bleeding playlistSaint Maud (2019) is streaming on SBS on Demand and you can rent it from Apple TV, YouTube etcetKristen Stewart Uncensored: ‘I Want to Do the Gayest Thing You’ve Ever Seen in Your Life’ in Rolling StoneGerber/Hart Library & Archives on InstagramPumping Iron II: The Women (1985) docAli Kazma's video art piece Bodybuilding (2013)Katy O'Brian interview in She's A BeastAlso AlsosEar Alchemy by Sarah and SebastianThe Theatre of War - Stanislava Pinchuk – on at ACMI til 9 JunePerfect Days by Wim Wenders is out now in cinemasCarlton Gardens Tennis ClubShe's on the Money podcastSamin Nosrat on Modern Love podcastFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast

Join the Hogg Hive (aka our members' only club) at Patreon.com/SeeAlso for ad-free episodes, bonus content and more 😘This week, Brodie was assigned the identity of a passenger who died the Titanic and it was GREAT!!! Jinxy had a recent perfect weekend itinerary with her sister. Do any straight men listen to this podcast???Brodie explains the Tones and I origin story to Kate (sorry) then they discuss Two Weeks' Notice (important movie for girls who eat and poo a lot and fall) and cowabunga-ing at Timmy riding the worm in Dune. The girls have been watching: Southern Charm, The Regime, Mary and George.THEN it's time to discuss the arguments between society women past and present: first in RHOBH, which wrapped this past week, and Feud: Capote vs the Swans.Prepare for next week by going to the movies to watch Love Lies Bleeding – next week we're talking about every set, rep and pump.See AlsoThe cast of Feud: Capote's women vs their real-life counterpartsThe Vulture recaps (better than the show some of the time)That Summer documentaryIn Cold Blood (good book)Feud review by Mike Hail in the New York TimesThe Lee Radziwill bag from Tory BurchAlso AlsosByredo Lip Liner (from Mecca)Titanic: The Artefact Exhibition – on til 21 April at Melbourne MuseumCinemagoer websiteSummer House on HayuBaggu Cloud Carry–On (in black)The Hours (bonus: Michael Cunningham is appearing at MWF on Wed 8 May)Find us on Instagram @seealsopodcast