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A holiday episode out from behind the paywall while we take a small break – but back next week with a Best of 2024 episode just for the Hogg Hive! Join The Hogg Hive on Patreon for access to all our special episodes.This week, See Also is wishing you a happy new year – twice! – with the most perfect rom-com to ever exist: When Harry Met Sally. They discuss the two iconic pairings: Nora Ephron and Rob Reiner, Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal. And they dig into the wagon wheel coffee table, Baby Fish-Mouth, “Thin. Pretty. Big tits. Your basic nightmare.”, going on a road trip with a man asking BL for the story of her life, imagine giving a Dorit "carcass out" drink order on a plane, this is in the Drop Dead Fred extended universe, being someone's weekday girlfriend, Harry's from Haddenfield like Michael Meyers, pesto is the quiche of the 80s, the Puck building on Lafayette St, Meg Ryan as queen of the rom-com, “This is a talk piece,” days of the week underpants ARE funny!, Don’t fuck with Mr Zero, a very cold hard mexican ceramic tile, "On the side is a very big thing for you", Princess Diana thinks it's so naughty.See Also:Nora Ephron on Desk Set When Harry Met Sally remembered by Alice Behind the Scenes French KissCrossing DelanceyHeartburnPostcards from the EdgeDerek Guy: HOW TO RECREATE EVERY GOOD OUTFIT IN HARRY MET SALLY 🧵Carrie Fisher was the Best Part of When Harry Met SallyThe Meaning of When Harry Met SallyWhen Rob Reiner's Alter Ego Met Nora Ephron's Alter Ego

To match our recent See Also presents Carol cinema screenings, we've pulled out this classic ep from a few Christmases ago. Join The Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear last week's mini ep and an upcoming Best Of 2024.For a very special holiday Poodle, Kate is joined by Chelsea Fairless, co-host of Every Outfit for a virtual glove-lunch. Together, they play 1950s and devolve into "dyke debauchery" while discussing our fave and yours: Carol, based on crime novelist Patricia Highsmith’s "The Price of Salt" starring Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara. They cover the martinis and creamed spinach, Our Cate's voice and her period-inappropriate manicure. Also: Alsos!See Also:The original short story Carol/The Price of Salt is based onScreenwriter Phyllis Nagy discussing the way the film finally came togetherKate McKinnon's Carol parody for the Film Independent Spirit AwardsKing Princess song 1950, inspired by CarolForbidden Love: The Passions behind Patricia Highsmith's "The Price of Salt""Carol" Up CloseWatch Also:TárLoving Highsmith (with caveats discussed in the episode)Nelly & NadineWord is Out: These are the Stories of Some of our LivesThe Children's HourThe Killing of Sister GeorgeDesert HeartsHigh ArtThe L Word & The L Word: Generation Q (LOL)Also Alsos:Chels recommends: Byredo lipstick in Subtropical, Lana Del Rey - Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean BlvdJinxy recommends: her Zodiac Club extended playlist on Spotify, Gay Bar: Why We Went Out by Jamie Atherton Lin, Je Tu Il Elle Find us on Instagram @seealsopodcast

A rapid-fire list of reccs from The Age's chief restaurant critic. In this bonus episode, which you can listen to in full when you join The Hogg Hive over on Patreon, Besha shares her spot for a Jinxy-style LDATB (little drink at the bar), tells us about "one of the great, great Melbourne rooms", and tells us about some over- and under-rated restaurants, the meal she wants the second she lands back in Melbourne, and the place she'd suggest for dinner in a famous dead-zone of the CBD.To listen to the full version of this bonus episode, support See Also on Patreon!For just $5 USD / $8.50 AUD a month, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays. No days off!Weekly posts in your email with all the episode links & show notesAccess to special Q&A episodes (like this one!) & occasional bonus episodesFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhJoin the Hogg Hive at patreon.com/seealso

This week we're joined by Besha Rodell, the James Beard-winning food writer who filled the shoes of Jonathon Gold at LA Weekly, has told NYT readers how Australians eat, and is currently the chief restaurant critic at The Age and Good Weekend.She tells Kate and Brodie about being the last remaining anonymous food critic the un-deification of The Chef, her upcoming book, how and why she does her job, and why food isn't the only reason to go to a restaurant.Join The Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear Besha's rapid-fire reccs in a bonus episode next week!See Also – Besha's reviews we mentionWe know Ben Shewry doesn’t like the Good Food Guide. And we don’t careThis Melbourne icon divides food snobs – but our critic keeps going backReview: Kisumé in Melbourne, AustraliaFive months after opening, this hyped city restaurant was still empty, and it’s easy to see whySpots Besha mentioned:Vue De MondeJim's Greek TavernWaiter's ClubMario'sBratwurst Shop & Co.France SoirMalinBesha's Also AlsosTzaki TzakiHeartstopperWine growing regions in Great Southern (WA) and Gippsland

Kate and Brodie talk about Stuff Again, this time the things that tempted them during Black Friday. They discuss the queer dance party of the season – no, not the Troye Sivan show; Kate's partner's birthday party!!!Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear our recent gift guide episode, future bonuses, and every episode ad-free and early. Or: gift a membership to a See Also fan in your life!We follow the brick road whose shape – but not its colour – is protected by stringent copyright law to Shiz University, where we had a GREAT TIME!!!! And then avoid doing accent work to chat about the brilliant TV adaptation of Patrick Radden Keefe's book, Say Nothing.Don't forget to grab your tickets to our screening of Carol at Thornbury Picture House on 17 December!See AlsosWild at Heart (for Laura Palmer Glinda)Girl, Interrupted (for Clea Duvall playing a Wizard of Oz obsessive (and pathological liar))Return to Oz (based mainly on the book Ozma of Oz)Patrick Raddan Keefe's original New Yorker essayKneecap, screening in Aus cinemas nowThe Crying GameThe Disappeared Craic Pack: How the Irish Came to Rule Pop CultureAlso Alsos Film Map on TumblrSweethearts – dir by Jordan Weiss, on BingeFashion Neurosis with Bella FreudGood Morning's new album, The AccidentE Nolan pop–up, Thurs–Sun until 22 Dec – 43 Derby St, CollingwoodThe Season by Helen Garner

You asked, we recommended. In our holiday gift guide, which you can listen to in full when you join The Hogg Hive over on Patreon, we recommend gifts for "the Rebel Wilson in the family", Diane Keaton in The Family Stone, and many genres of dad.To listen to the full version of this bonus episode, support See Also on Patreon!For just $5 USD / $8.50 AUD a month, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays. No days off!Weekly posts in your email with all the episode links & show notesAccess to special Q&A episodes (like this one!) & occasional bonus episodesFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhJoin the Hogg Hive at patreon.com/seealso

A different kind of episode – and one sans Also Alsos because we don't need any more things! (You DO need to get your tickets to our holiday screenings of CAROL though, don't forget.)Here are a few choice quotes we shared in this chat, and some recommended reading:“As I get older, I’m resentful of how much I have accumulated. I’m actually angry about it.” – Stacey LondonThe yard sale scene in Ghost World:Angry Garage Sale Woman : How much for this dress?Rebecca : God, I can't believe you're selling that.Enid : That's $500.Angry Garage Sale Woman : What?Enid : 500.Angry Garage Sale Woman : You're crazy. It should be like $2.Enid : I was wearing that when I lost my virginity.Angry Garage Sale Woman : Well, why do I care about that?Enid : Well, why do you want it? I mean, it would look stupid on you anyway.Angry Garage Sale Woman : God! Fuck you!“I work today with the manifesto that clutter is unresolved decisions.” – Megan Morton“I don’t buy that much new stuff at all. I get the thrill of a hunt, this one thing that nobody else has. I always think of it as part of my job and my business, so it’s okay, but I really just want less stuff. Why do I always want something new? What’s missing in me?” – Chloe Sevigny'Does it bring you joy?' vs. 'If it was covered in shit would you throw it away or clean it?' – Some random person on tikok"The first thing I tried to unload was four folk-art handbags, each constructed out of braided cigarette-pack wrappers by incarcerated Americans in the nineteen-fifties and sixties. I’d amassed the collection in the nineties, on eBay, for reasons that now elude me." – Patricia Marx"The trick to buying things you don’t regret is looking all the time and rarely buying. Spend days wandering in and out of shops the way snooty snoots plunder through galleries. Try on things that are popular or appeal to you without any intention of buying them. Look at things way outside your budget and at fast fashion brands. (Canal Street and the New Arrivals at Shein are a reporter/researcher’s best-kept trend cipher.) Do the same at vintage stores and Net-a-Porter and Mytheresa and all the good indie stores online (Worthwhile, Stand Up Comedy, Maimoun etc etc). Go to places like Outline and LaGarconne and ask the people working there to explain the brands and pieces to you. Try to keep cool headed and you’ll soon find that you know so much that you really know you’re being seduced instead of merely flirted with." – Rachel Tashjian in OPULENT TIPS #83See Alsos Raquel Caballero on Opposite EndsA Guide to Getting Rid of Almost EverythingWhat Jason Schwartzman can't live without Amy Sedaris's house tourCity of Yarra recycling centre

Don't forget to get your tickets to our holiday screenings of CAROL!This week Katie Janx from MUFF and Brodie Lancaster (not the boy from Albury Wodonga) have a couple of corrections about Francis Ford Coppola and the white rapper Addison Rae's mum actually dated. No one on Threads or Bluesky are funny, kind of like those chicks on RHONY. Jinxy is back on board with RHOSLC, but less so with Gladiator II. Brodie wants to work for Martha Stewart, and both of us kind of want to raid Guru Jagat aka Kundalini Katie's closet after watching Breath of Fire.Get more See Also when you sign up to the Hogg Hive on PatreonSee AlsosBL's column about Martha StewartHayley Phelan's Vanity Fair article, The Second Coming of Guru JagatThe Vanity Fair article about Breath of Fire, which is based on that Vanity Fair articleAlso AlsosNew Deborah Levy book, The Position Of SpoonsKim Deal's debut solo record Nobody Loves You MoreWill & Harper (Netflix)Ziggy Pleat Dress from ALPHA60 My Brilliant Career at MTC directed by Anne Louise SarksACMI's new program, Focus on Peter Weir (Wed 29 Jan – Fri 14 Feb 2025)

A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhMaybe you're in need of some comfort watching right now, and with the holidays just around the corner we've got three little words for you: You've Got Mail. This week Kate drops in on her dear pal and author Dan Jones on an autumnal day in New York to talk about Nora Ephron's beloved 1998 romcom starring Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, Parker Posey and ... Dave Chappelle?! Over a tumble of pumpkins and gourds, Dan and Kate talk haircuts, surprise cameos, catfishing and cosiness vs capitalism.See AlsosYou've Got Mail oral history in Vanity FairYou've Got Mail shooting locations by Refinery 29Out & About in the New York TimesArt of the Title interview with graphic designers Milton Glaser, Walter Bernard and Mirko IlićDan recommends 3 New York indie bookstoresQueer Bookstore at the CenterBooks Are MagicThe Center for Fiction