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Matt Bird’s Epic Elliptical Ride
Season 1, Ep. 29
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For this month’s Rest Day Radio, we break out the popcorn! Story guru Matt Bird, author of The Secrets of Story and The Secrets of Character and co-host of the podcast A Good Story Well Told, joins Sebastian to dive into the world of sports movies. Austen gets in on the fun as co-host, and the three of them discuss and debate their favorites. Matt also breaks down the fitness routine he’s done every weekday since 1998, and reveals the cinematic way he’s kept himself motivated all these years. Plus, Austen has a surprising reaction to one of her long-time favorite films.
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