In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a> dive into where they get their tech news and how their habits have evolved from the early days of blogging and RSS to today’s AI-focused email newsletters. They reminisce about the heyday of blogs, the rise and fall of Google Reader, and Mark’s old NT Internals mailing list, which once had nearly 90,000 subscribers. They compare curated sources like Techmeme, The Verge, and The Information, and discuss how AI-driven newsletters have replaced RSS as the primary way they stay informed. The conversation also features a fun moment when Scott looks back at his 20-year-old blog posts and finds references to Mark’s tools that helped launch part of his career. Takeaways:<ul><li>Tech news consumption has shifted from RSS feeds to curated AI-driven newsletters</li><li>Blogging is still valuable as a personal knowledge archive, even decades later</li><li>How tech history lives in old URLs, broken links, and archived posts</li></ul> Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a> Watch Scott and Mark Learn on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a> Resources: Techmeme: <a href="https://www.techmeme.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.techmeme.com</a>– A leading tech news aggregator for technology business and breakthrough news.The Verge: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theverge.com</a>– Consumer technology news site covering tech, science, art, and culture.The Information: <a href="https://www.theinformation.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theinformation.com</a>– A subscription-based publication focused on technology and business news.The Rundown AI: <a href="https://www.therundown.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.therundown.ai</a>&nbsp;– Daily AI newsletter delivering news and practical applications in 5 minutes.Superhuman: <a href="https://www.superhuman.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.superhuman.ai</a>– Daily newsletter on AI tools, trends, and productivity tips.The Neuron: <a href="https://www.theneuron.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theneuron.ai</a>– Daily AI newsletter with trends, tools, and tutorials for professionals.The Batch: <a href="https://www.deeplearning.ai/the-batch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.deeplearning.ai/the-batch</a>&nbsp;– Weekly newsletter curated by Andrew Ng’s team, focused on AI research and industry updates.Turing Post: <a href="https://www.turingpost.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.turingpost.com</a>&nbsp;– Newsletter exploring AI/ML trends, research, and interviews.

Scott & Mark Learn To... Where to get news?

In this episode,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a>&nbsp;dive into how they each manage the flood of information, reminders, and ideas that fill their daily lives. From handwritten to-do lists to OneNote archives, they explore the balance between productivity tools and procrastination, and how offloading tasks can clear mental space. The two reflect on the psychology of lists, the illusion of control, and whether&nbsp;we’ll&nbsp;ever have a true second brain. A funny, self-aware, and relatable conversation about memory, focus, and the systems that keep us (mostly) functional.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Writing things down can free up mental space and reduce cognitive load&nbsp;</li><li>Procrastination can serve a purpose when your brain keeps working in the background&nbsp;</li><li>Organization&nbsp;doesn’t&nbsp;have to be perfect to be effective&nbsp;</li></ul>&nbsp;&nbsp;Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch Scott and Mark Learn on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at&nbsp;<a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… Second Brain

In this episode,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a>&nbsp;explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping software engineering and the career paths of developers. They discuss the emerging “AI boost” for experienced engineers versus the “AI slowdown” that can hinder those early in their careers, emphasizing the need for companies to create structured learning environments rather than rely solely on AI-driven productivity. The conversation dives into mentorship, apprenticeship models, and how senior engineers must evolve into teachers to ensure vital knowledge transfer. Together, Scott and Mark challenge the industry to rethink how it trains, supports, and measures success for the next generation of software professionals.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Companies should reward senior engineers who invest time in developing junior talent&nbsp;</li><li>Critical thinking and troubleshooting skills&nbsp;can’t&nbsp;be automated or shortcut through AI tools&nbsp;</li><li>Senior developers gain efficiency, while newcomers risk falling behind without proper guidance&nbsp;</li></ul>&nbsp;&nbsp;Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch Scott and Mark Learn on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at&nbsp;<a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… The AI Productivity Trap: Senior Boost, Junior Drag

In this episode,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a>&nbsp;dive deep into the promises and pitfalls of AI-assisted coding. They debate whether large language models can truly handle complex software projects, discuss the limitations of current AI systems in areas like synchronization, and explore the difference between human learning and machine pattern-matching. Along the way, they touch on the dangers of over-anthropomorphizing AI, the rise of “thinking tokens” in new models, and the impact these tools may have on junior developers learning the craft.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>The ongoing debate: can AI scale into true general intelligence or not?&nbsp;</li><li>The risks of relying too heavily on AI when you&nbsp;don’t&nbsp;understand your own code&nbsp;</li><li>What junior developers may lose and gain in a world of AI-assisted programming&nbsp;</li></ul>&nbsp;&nbsp;Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch Scott and Mark Learn on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at&nbsp;<a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… AI-Assisted Coding: Can AI Take the Wheel?

In this episode,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a>&nbsp;dive into the realities of career progression at Microsoft and in tech more broadly. They discuss the different paths engineers can take, whether through management, deep technical&nbsp;expertise, or individual innovation and the role that scope, impact, and even luck&nbsp;plays&nbsp;in promotions. Along the way, they reflect on the challenges of leveling, the importance of communication, and the balance between recognition, influence, and personal fulfillment in a long-term career.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Engineers can advance without becoming managers through individual contributions&nbsp;</li><li>Communication and influence are critical for advancing to senior levels&nbsp;</li><li>Promotions hinge on measurable business outcomes, not just effort or shipped work&nbsp;</li></ul>&nbsp;&nbsp;Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch Scott and Mark Learn on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at&nbsp;<a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… Level Up: Navigating Career Growth in Microsoft

In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a> dive into the technical side of modern AI research and development workflows. They discuss the power of remote development with VS Code, building custom chatbot tools for jailbreak testing, and exploring token probabilities with log probes. Mark also shares how he leveraged AI to generate a working UX in one shot, why temperature settings matter for model outputs, and his plans to open source his custom chatbot client.&nbsp; Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Discover how Mark uses VS Code split between local and cloud for AI research</li><li>Explore the risks and creativity behind context injection jailbreak</li><li>Get insights into model temperature settings and output logprobs</li></ul> Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; Watch Scott and Mark Learn on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at <a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… Chatbot, Another Vibe-Coded Project by Mark

In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a> explore the challenges and opportunities of coding with AI assistants. They compare different models, discuss the quirks of “vibe coding,” and share insights on building tools that bridge LLMs and APIs. Mark walks through his experience developing an academic reference checker, highlighting how AI can help structure messy data, uncover edge cases, and speed up complex development work. The conversation also touches on the evolving joy of coding, from puzzle-solving by hand to managing AI-driven workflows, and how these shifts are reshaping both productivity and creativity. Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Mark’s journey building an academic reference checker with AI</li><li>How AI assistants are changing the way developers find joy in coding</li><li>RefChecker source code: <a href="https://github.com/markrussinovich/refchecker" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/markrussinovich/refchecker</a>&nbsp;</li></ul> Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; Watch Scott and Mark Learn on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at <a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… Refchecker, a Useful Tool Coded by Mark and AI

In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a> share strategies for conducting more effective and purposeful one-on-one meetings. They emphasize the value of tailoring the approach to each individual, encouraging agenda-setting in advance, and prioritizing critical topics to ensure they are addressed. The discussion covers best practices for providing and receiving constructive feedback, maintaining visibility across teams, and striking a balance between trust and accountability. They also address the importance of recognizing contributions, differentiating between credit and “lift,” and using one-on-ones to proactively identify and remove obstacles. Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>Tailor meeting style to each person’s preferences for communication and frequency</li><li>Avoid over-preparation or unnecessary large meetings when a small discussion will suffice</li><li>Share discussion topics ahead of one-on-ones with senior leaders to maximize value</li></ul> Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; Watch Scott and Mark Learn on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at <a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;

Scott & Mark Learn To… What Makes Good 1-1s

In this episode of&nbsp;Scott and Mark Learn To,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott Hanselman</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Russinovich</a>&nbsp;explore vibe coding with AI, testing how Copilot Agent Mode can analyze their transcripts to see who talks more on the show. They discuss coding with AI as a collaborative sculpting process, debate crediting AI for its contributions, and reflect on the human judgment still needed for prompting and refining outputs. Along the way, they generate graphs, poke fun at each other’s talk time, and share insights on how AI is changing coding and creative work.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Takeaways:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<ul><li>See how Copilot Agent Mode can generate graphs from transcripts&nbsp;</li><li>Learn the difference between vibe coding and spec-driven development&nbsp;</li><li>Explore the potential for interactive charts using D3.js for podcast data&nbsp;</li></ul>&nbsp;&nbsp;Who are they?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanselman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrussinovich/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch Scott and Mark Learn on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shanselman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Listen to other episodes at&nbsp;<a href="http://scottandmarklearn.to/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">scottandmarklearn.to</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at<a href="https://news.microsoft.com/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;microsoft.com/podcasts</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Live Vibe Coding - Who Talks More, Scott or Mark?

Join tech industry veterans Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich as they dive into the challenges and innovations of today’s fast-paced world. Whether you’re an experienced developer or simply curious about technology, each episode offers a fresh perspective on emerging trends, familiar topics, and insights that go beyond the strictly technical. From the latest in AI to effective ways to influence without authority, Scott and Mark set out to 'learn' something new in every episode, and they’re bringing you along for the ride. Join Scott and Mark for engaging discussions, expert advice, and a shared journey of learning and discovery. There's always something new to learn!&nbsp;

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