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The art of persuasion with Anand Giridharadas

Season 1, Ep. 269

Hello! A bonus Cheerful Book Club episode coming at you this week direct from Geoff’s loft. We’re talking to bestselling author Anand Giridharadas about his new book The Persuaders: Winning Hearts and Minds in a Divided Age. 

Progressive movements need to persuade, not simply preach, he says. But what does that look like if it is not ‘persuasion by dilution’? We talk to Anand about what we can learn from the people who are changing minds and building big coalitions to make progressive movements around the world more successful.

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    Would you like to work less, feel happier and maybe even do something good for the planet, all with no loss in pay? It’s a dream that could soon become a reality for many, after the world's biggest four day week trial wrapped up last year. We explore the results and dig back through our audio archives to revisit the history of a shorter working week, why it could be a solution to Britain's flatlining productivity problem, and what comes next for the four day week campaign.GuestsAndrew Barnes, 4 Day Week - Global (@4dayweek_global)Kate Bell, TUC (@kategobell)Rachel Kay, Researcher and Will Stronge, co-founder of think-tank Autonomy (@w_stronge / @Autonomy_UK)More information Listen to RTBC 55 Living for the (three day) weekend (October 2018)Listen to RTBC 126 The Four Day Future: Building a movement for shorter working hours (Feb 2020)Read the report by think tank Autonomy The Results are In: The UK’s four-day week pilot (Feb 2023)Read more about the UK’s 4 Day Week CampaignRead more about the global movement for a four day week
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