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Reasons to be Cheerful with Ed Miliband and Geoff Lloyd

Thank you, next: breaking up with the job for life

Season 1, Ep. 296

Hello! Geoff’s off this week and friend of the pod and writer Melissa Benn is practicing what we preach in this episode by trialing a new vocation as podcast co-host. This week, sparked by the news of the resignation of Jacinda Ardern and Nicola Sturgeon - we’re talking all about what happens when you take a step back from a high-pressure job. What comes next? And why is the way we think about careers all wrong? We talk to four guests about navigating new career paths, having a mid-career gap year, and whether the dream job really exists. 

Plus: Ed’s gone down a new internet rabbit hole. What is it this time?


Dr Ali Budjanovcanin, Senior Lecturer in Work Psychology and Public Sector Management at King’s College London, and Career Coach (@AliBudj)

Lucy Kellaway, Economics Teacher and Co-Founder of NowTeach (@lucykellaway / @NowTeachOrg)

Katie White, taking a career break from her role at WWF (@KatieJWhite)

Jaega Wise, Co-Founder and Head Brewer at Wild Card Brewery, London (@jaegawise)

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Follow Melissa on Twitter (@Melissa_Benn)

Interested in a career in teaching? Learn more about NowTeach

Attend the 'Teaching Curious with Lord Blunkett' event, hosted by NowTeach (May 23rd)

Check out Wild Card Brewery

Ready to quit your job? Here are 17 things to ask yourself first. (Opinion, Guardian, August 2021)

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