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Interpersonal Effectiveness for BPD, Pt. 1: Clarifying Your Goals

Season 2, Ep. 3

In Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT), the fourth and final module - known as Interpersonal Effectiveness - teaches you skills to communicate effectively, set boundaries, and maintain relationships while achieving your personal goals. If you'd like to take this exact course, here's a 25% discount code you can use for your deposit - just cause you listen to my pod. (QUIETBPD25)


This is my favourite module by far with DBT because it’s helped me significantly with conflict resolution, and empowered me to ask for my needs without feeling guilty, without letting my emotions make things worse, and without burning bridges.


Back in Season 1, I had interviewed Dr. Jesse Finkelstein on his insights about DBT. It was such a fun chat that Jesse and the team over at TheraHive offered to let me try out this module for free with them. I thought, yes! I'll do it, and this way, I can share my experience with the course and all of my DBT reflections with you.


In this episode, I’ll go over my reflections on Week 1 of the course, including:

  • My SMART goal for this course that I'll focus on when I'm putting the skills to action
  • Do only people with BPD become dysregulated during interpersonal conflict?
  • What if I'm communicating effectively, but I still don't get what I need? Does this mean I'm the problem?
  • What is the Actor-Observer Bias?
  • What are the three main priorities in our interactions with others?
  • Why shouldn't I always make it my first priority to be liked by everyone?
  • Why shouldn't I always make it my first priority to focus on myself, or being right?


Thank you to Roland, Alicia, Jesse, and the TheraHive team for collaborating with me and allowing me to try out this course!


TYSM to my wonderful patrons:

Christian • Steph • Winter Peach • Ashley Marie • Tom • Kristen • Mimi • Bjorn • Pluto • Elleot

Your support helps me to keep going. <3


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