Polite Conversations

This is pt 2 of a 2 part episode. Check out pt 1 first:Public version:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4PlQNmDGLZImSzBWe5Szu7?si=31WFEq7zSnSrZspO1AeO0wExtended Patreon Version: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-105-mapping-1-152979500?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link———Dr. David S. Smith joins me for an in-depth conversation about the manosphere & inceldom. We discuss different subgroups in the manosphere, (Incels [Involuntary Celibates]. MGTOWs [Men Going Their Own Way], MRAs [Men’s Rights Activists]), incel terminology (Red/Blue/Black pill, Trucels, etc) and more.We also discuss how these online subcultures are relevant to what we see in the news today (ICE/IDF) as well as how manosphere talking points have been normalized by IDW ‘intellectuals’.If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangosFind the extended version of this episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/152983072Find Dr. David Smith’s book - The Incel Mindset here (or request it through your library): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-16385-1Read more of his findings here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10714421.2024.2383814Links:On Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455Eliot Rodger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_RodgerJordan Peterson Enforced Monogamy - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.htmlArchived version: https://archive.ph/iL02iHere’s an episode I did in 2018 on the Manosphere with Kevin Logan and a former MGTOW/MRA (pt 1): https://open.spotify.com/episode/25Gd8OXb5It3S87XsQilve?si=Rzw_wK1WQ9yFWxajegVQ2g(pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/55gpE6KXENaOGbjX3IGVxE?si=kdMPyTilRbuY61HEML4-FgThe popular Evopsych episode came up in this episode too. Find it here: (pt 1) https://open.spotify.com/episode/4jSFhcmT6xNJ4JOwbEkscE?si=sBz3iCdPRZKi3aFQZXwDxQ(Pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/5gvuP3xLyqKSpJgTjf43A3?si=dFCP469jQwyM4otX24URBQ

Dr. David S. Smith joins me for an in-depth conversation about the manosphere & inceldom. We discuss different subgroups in the manosphere, (Incels [Involuntary Celibates]. MGTOWs [Men Going Their Own Way], MRAs [Men’s Rights Activists]), incel terminology (Red/Blue/Black pill, Trucels, etc) and more.We also discuss how these online subcultures are relevant to what we see in the news today (ICE/IDF) as well as how manosphere talking points have been normalized by IDW ‘intellectuals’.If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos Find the extended version of the episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-105-mapping-1-152979500Find Dr. David Smith’s book - The Incel Mindset here (or request it through your library): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-16385-1Read more of his findings here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10714421.2024.2383814Links:On Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455Eliot Rodger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_RodgerJordan Peterson Enforced Monogamy - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.htmlArchived version: https://archive.ph/iL02iHere’s an episode I did in 2018 on the Manosphere with Kevin Logan and a former MGTOW/MRA (pt 1): https://open.spotify.com/episode/25Gd8OXb5It3S87XsQilve?si=Rzw_wK1WQ9yFWxajegVQ2g(pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/55gpE6KXENaOGbjX3IGVxE?si=kdMPyTilRbuY61HEML4-FgThe popular Evopsych episode came up in this episode too. Find it here: (pt 1) https://open.spotify.com/episode/4jSFhcmT6xNJ4JOwbEkscE?si=sBz3iCdPRZKi3aFQZXwDxQ(Pt 2) : https://open.spotify.com/episode/5gvuP3xLyqKSpJgTjf43A3?si=dFCP469jQwyM4otX24URBQ

Find the extended version here https://www.patreon.com/posts/extended-anti-to-152314703?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Join me for an episode about how obscene the casual celebration of violence towards Iran, Gaza, Muslims in general has been lately (shockingly, Sam Harris comes up). [This is a RE-RELEASE of an episode from July 2025, when the US & Israel were engaged in the same sort of thing we're seeing today. Still very relevant today sadly.]Find the extended version via patreon.com/nicemangosLinks:Near Identical statements from Canada, UK, Aus https://x.com/dropsitenews/status/1936892596678197535?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwSpeaking in tongues at the White House: https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1937134487852503137?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwIsrael places its military HQ's in civilian neighbourhoods and towns: https://x.com/tparsi/status/1935733115114127475?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwNo proof of a systematic effort to move into a nuclear weapon” Director Gen of the IAEA https://x.com/amanpour/status/1935095391109922822?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqwclips of Netenyahu claiming Iran has been ‘weeks away’ from nukes for the last 30 years: https://x.com/deanobeidallah/status/1935141637660774892?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwGuardian piece on Iran, referenced in the episode https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/22/the-guardian-view-on-trump-bombing-iran-an-and-reckless-actNetenyahu talks of having to delay his son’s wedding https://bsky.app/profile/antizionistjew.bsky.social/post/3lrxppo3qkc2aBBC Journalist tweets ‘Bomb, Bomb Iran’ https://x.com/indiawilloughby/status/1936815923245265297?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwUS strikes fail to destroy Iran’s nuclear siteshttps://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-2025-06-23/Ben Gvir ‘Those who bomb hospitals are Nazis’ https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1935700095791513697?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwResearch finds the BBC coverage of Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza is systematically biased against Palestinians and fails to reach standards of impartiality. https://novaramedia.com/2025/06/16/bbc-systematically-biased-against-palestinians-in-gaza-coverage/

This is pt 2 of a 2-part episode, if you haven’t checked out pt 1 yet you can find it here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/5yOQT2njL0E7KUXH17SE15?si=yDaT23xvSMeksbbzM9-9jQfind the extended version here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/fashademics-2-pt-151478512?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link———Linguist Dr. Caitlin Green joins me to explore the views and positions of one Jonathan Haidt. We talk IDW/Heterodox stuff, anti-anti racism, transphobia, reactionary centrism, race ‘science’ and mentions in the Epstein files.If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos and unlock ad-free extended episodes! Both parts 1 & 2 of this ep are up early for patrons***Polite Conversations is a member of Harbinger Media - subscribe to their weekly newsletter for the latest in new episodes from left & progressive Canadian podcasts via harbingermedianetwork.com ***LinksFind Caitlin & Trent’s podcast, ‘Half the Answer’ here:  https://youtu.be/LFeIRhvEZns?si=L7aDdg4sMGjZ5rKJHaidt stands with Israel: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1711051817499472328?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwHaidt blames intersectionality for anti-Israel sentiment: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1712641827528909266?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwUsing Grok CSAM scandal to push for more social media bans instead of accountability: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/2010345277564334482?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwHaidt’ S Edge.org piece from 2009: Faster Evolution Means More Ethnic Differences https://www.edge.org/response-detail/10376Kristen Bell Says She and Dax Shepard Let Their Daughters Roam a Danish Amusement Park Alone: 'Didn't See Them for 7 Hours' https://people.com/kristen-bell-says-she-let-kids-roam-danish-amusement-park-alone-8716121Ezra Klein interview with Haidt: https://youtu.be/RN2GhPal4qA?si=7XY7TFNrf3EAzArdHaidt Crimes: On Moral Foundations Theory and the Normalization of Fascismhttps://www.theflytrapmedia.com/haidt-crimes-on-moral-foundations-theory-and-the-normalization-of-fascism-christian-nationalism/Thread re: Greenblatt’s awkward intvw with a white identitarian https://bsky.app/profile/nicemangos.bsky.social/post/3m23otynuc22nIf you enjoy this episode, check out the 2-Part ep on Pinker: Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5UMuX2BkACiuPIhsPKIB5a?si=Ty4Wcd25RQG0hydlTsjR6g(Ad free Patreon version):https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973413?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_linkPt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4LmIYPtWutuaAkD57GCxy7?si=-64nSgmQS-O6tvZMH4c4qg(Ad free Patreon version):https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973853?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_linkAnd the episode on Richard Dawkins: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1uSIJRoF9LxkkNtRYBZvRV?si=sOxTysnMSnWYcPGbz-UHGw(Ad free Patreon version):https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-76-dawkins-101893054?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Linguist Dr. Caitlin Green joins me to explore the views and positions of one Jonathan Haidt. We talk IDW/Heterodox stuff, anti-anti racism, transphobia, reactionary centrism, race ‘science’ and mentions in the Epstein files.If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos and unlock ad-free extended episodes! Both parts 1 & 2 of this ep are up early for patrons***Polite Conversations is a member of Harbinger Media - subscribe to their weekly newsletter for the latest in new episodes from left & progressive Canadian podcasts via harbingermedianetwork.com ***LinksFind Caitlin & Trent’s podcast, ‘Half the Answer’ here:  https://youtu.be/LFeIRhvEZns?si=L7aDdg4sMGjZ5rKJHaidt stands with Israel: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1711051817499472328?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwHaidt blames intersectionality for anti-Israel sentiment: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/1712641827528909266?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwUsing Grok CSAM scandal to push for more social media bans instead of accountability: https://x.com/jonhaidt/status/2010345277564334482?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50LqwHaidt’ S Edge.org piece from 2009: Faster Evolution Means More Ethnic Differences https://www.edge.org/response-detail/10376Kristen Bell Says She and Dax Shepard Let Their Daughters Roam a Danish Amusement Park Alone: 'Didn't See Them for 7 Hours' https://people.com/kristen-bell-says-she-let-kids-roam-danish-amusement-park-alone-8716121Ezra Klein interview with Haidt: https://youtu.be/RN2GhPal4qA?si=7XY7TFNrf3EAzArdHaidt Crimes: On Moral Foundations Theory and the Normalization of Fascismhttps://www.theflytrapmedia.com/haidt-crimes-on-moral-foundations-theory-and-the-normalization-of-fascism-christian-nationalism/Thread re: Greenblatt’s awkward intvw with a white identitarian https://bsky.app/profile/nicemangos.bsky.social/post/3m23otynuc22nIf you enjoy this episode, check out the 2-Part ep on Pinker: Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5UMuX2BkACiuPIhsPKIB5a?si=Ty4Wcd25RQG0hydlTsjR6g(Ad free Patreon version):https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973413?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_linkPt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4LmIYPtWutuaAkD57GCxy7?si=-64nSgmQS-O6tvZMH4c4qg(Ad free Patreon version):https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-81-pinkers-pt-107973853?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_linkAnd the episode on Richard Dawkins: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1uSIJRoF9LxkkNtRYBZvRV?si=sOxTysnMSnWYcPGbz-UHGw(Ad free Patreon version):https://www.patreon.com/posts/ep-76-dawkins-101893054?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link