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Jackie is a former DCI with the metropolitan Police. She started her career in Leicestershire she now works within the true crime world. Whilst in the Police she advised some of the most iconic police dramas on the television. Jackie was the inspiration for Lynda La Plantes character DCI Jane Tennison in Prime Suspect.Jackie joined the police as a cadet and on the 7th July 1970 she was sworn in as a constable. At that time she was part of the Police Women’s Department she worked in Highfields in Leicester City. Jackie was promoted to Sgt after 3 years’ service she became a Detective Sergeant in quick succession. After 9 years’ service she made the decision to go to the Metropolitan Police and was encouraged by Michael Hurst. In 1980 she went to the CID as a DS. Her initial major crime deployment was on the New Cross Fire. Graham Stockwell was the commander on the investigation, and he insisted that there would be no room for criticism in the way the team conducted the enquiry.The coroner inappropriately called a quick inquest to appease racial harmony – The inquest resulted in an open verdict. Jackie was seconded to the abduction and murder of Vishal Mehrotra - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Vishal_Mehrotra she maintains the momentum of this investigation with former Detective Sean Keep and BBC journalist Colin Campbell and is an integral part of the Podcast “ Vishal” which has recently won awards at the True Crime awards.Jackie was head hunted by Commander Stockwell to go to the Flying Squad at Rotherhithe. Her reception was frosty to say the least. Misogyny was in full flow, and she was subjected to abusive behaviour from one of her colleagues Sgt Phil William. Jackie was posted to West End Central and was on duty the day that Yvonne Fletcher was murdered and vividly remembers attending the scene. It was during her time at West End Central that she experienced corruption. Having exposed the individuals, she was accused of having a lesbian relationship with her junior colleague. The Inspector involved stood trial at the Old Bailey, he was convicted and went to prison. Having been promoted to DCI, Jackie was approached by author Lynda Le Plante. Lynda was seeking advice regarding a publication. The outcome was Helen Mirren became the character DCI Jane Tennison in Prime Suspect Since leaving the job Jackie has trained as a counsellor and assists in the rehabilitation of offenders who are in prison. She also works with ex- offenders and has formed professional friendships with former armed robbers such as Noel Razor Smith.  We discuss the modern police service and the issues faced and the great work carried out – Brick cop gets a mention!

Jackie Malton fights tirelessly to bring the killer of Vishal Mehrotra to justice.Vishal Mehrotra (27 September 1972 – on or after 29 July 1981) was an eight-year-old boy who was abducted from Putney, London, England, on 29 July 1981.[The child's partial remains were discovered on 25 February 1982 on an isolated farm in Sussex. The killers were never identified and no one has ever been charged with the murder.In May 2023, Sussex Police announced they would be re-examining the case. The progress is slow and there has been no communication.

Tristram Hicks was a member of the UK asset recovery committee from 2002 to 2012, directing the multi-agency strategy to implement the famous Proceeds of Crime Act. His strategic role was combined with operational command.He joined the police as a constable in 1985, retiring as detective superintendent in 2012. By 1999 he was head of financial intelligence at Scotland Yard, leading teams of field/ financial intelligence, surveillance officers & analysts. In 2004, he set up & commanded the London Regional Asset Recovery Team, the first multi-agency team in London to tackle serious organised crime by ‘following the money’.

PS Derek Robertson was married with two young children. He had been an officer since 1973 and had been posted to South Norwood for three years. Alerted by the wife of the postmaster at New Addington Post Office to an incident, PS Robertson and other officers responded. PS Robertson went to the side of the Post Office where he saw three men escaping. He tackled them and was stabbed in the ensuing struggle. Despite the best efforts of the HEMS crew that attended, PS Robertson died. Sentencing Judge HHJ Auld described the attack as "wanton and savage". Sgt Robertson's murderer, Robert Eades was sentenced to life with a minimum term of 25 years.Derek was posthumously awarded the Queen's Gallantry Medal1 March 1996. May PS Derek John Carnie Robertson rest in peace.

Peter Moule joined the Police on 22nd December 1975. He went to Ashford Police Training College for his training and his first wage packet was £127 for the month. This was significantly lower than his wages from Eastern Electricity.His first posting was Colchester, and his first duties was to watch the rear gate to ensure security was maintained during the heightened IRA activity. It was during this time he met his Supt and C/Chief Supt, one interaction was positive and the other not so! He vividly remembers being called back into work after nights because he missed a shop burglary After 2 years Pete went to CID at Colchester, and worked with some of Essex Polices’ characters. He decided that CID was not his chosen career decided to move to the Force Support Unit based in Chelmsford. He was deployed to the Miners Strike which lasted for 9 months they were billeted at Proteus where the accommodation was basic!To prepare for the miners strike they trained hard . They were initially trained with tennis balls being thrown! The FSU decided that this wasn’t sufficient and made their own petrol bombs and swapped the tennis balls for bricks. The first deployment was without any PPE at Orgreave wearing just normal uniform.   Pete recalls stopping Fatima Whitbread in Ingrave for driving so slowly. She went on to sign the inside of the hat belonging to Brian “Bill” Bishop before making her way home. Bill was murdered in August 84  following an armed robbery in Frinton On Sea.Pete decided to transfer to the City Of London to undertake more close protection roles. He went onto protect a number of dignitaries from the Royal Family to Heads of States. Pete recounts his deployment with The Queen mother.The City Of London had a odd view of transferees. Its petes view that the City wanted the information from the transferees that City were so clearly lacking!During his time in Essex Pete qualified as a hypnotherapist and he carried this on in the City. He set up his own business in this field and was mentored by Dr Eric Sheppard. He went on to qualify as a stress counsellor. Pete has given talks at Portcullis House to deliver his views in dealing with PTSD.Pete left the City and joined the National Crime Squad at Crawley where he concluded his career.Pete is involved in the canoeing and kayaking world and has attended the Olympics across the world as a technical official and chief starter for events.He is a cancer survivor and is in remission and talks candidly and positively about his experience.Life is good for Pete and he shares his time with his family and learning. His challenge is to learn a unconventional way of reading 25k words a minute. Listen to his podcast about policing in the 70s

Simon Ovens was born in 1967 at St Georges hospital on Hyde Park Corner which is now the Luxury Lainsborough Hotel.At 19½ Simon joined the Metropolitan Police and commenced his residential training. His inspiration to join was Shaw Taylor on Police 5. Simon recalls patrolling in Tunics and helmets using a VDRS and HORTI book to perform his duties. Image and standards are large part of Simons professional ethos.Simons first posting was Sutton, and it was a good grounding for his skills. He learnt the art of being a member of a team. His first step of management was running the local Tea Club. Simon was a prolific thief taker and was introduced to the world of CID which he did not particularly like. Simon returned to uniform duties and took full advantage of opportunities. He became level 2 trained and was present during the first Poll Tax Riot. As Sgts, Ray Gravet & John Lewis were inspirational to simon, and he chose to take part in the Sgts exam. However, he was unable to sit the exam because he had not served 5 years. The only way he could circumvent the rule was to be recommended by the Assistant Commissioner. Simon followed the chain of command. Simon put in his report and was seen by the Chief Superintendent Peter Lockley. Mr Lockley said that if Simon obtained an A Level in Law he would be supported. Simon duly obtained the exam and Mr Lockley facilitated the meeting between Simon and the commander. (John Coo) and sat his Sgts exam which he passed.Simon climbed the ranks and worked with Tarique Ghaffur and was made a temporary C/Supt. His career was not without low points. He was dealt with. Simon’s career saw him move through a number of roles including the head of Traffic and Transport which he loved.We discuss the closure of Police Stations is discussed along with the link between the police and the public.In 1989 Simon attended was allocated the role as the mortuary liaison officer he was armed with a box which contained bags and tags. 5 people died and 88 injured.During his service Simon was appointed as a deputy lieutenant for London. This appointment is sanctioned by Buckingham palace. It is voluntary and unpaid. At the time of the coronation simon was selected to meet and greet Kings Queens and Heads of State on behalf of King Charles III. This was a full-on role for a brief period and at 6am on the morning of the coronation he had to meet the head of an African nation as they arrived in the UK.Simon’s role as a Deputy Lieutenant is to support community cohesion. Simons service in the police and since has been distinguished he has supported Royal Weddings, Funerals and Jubilee Celebration. on Simons very last day in the police he was on horseback at the Kings Birthday parade. He saluted the King rode back to the stable dismounted and hung up his spurs. It is a day Simon will never forget.

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