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Raising Inclusive Kids Without Fear or Perfection with Beth Leipholtz
When parenting doesn’t go as expected, how do you move forward?
Parenting rarely goes according to plan, and this episode will remind you that unexpected turns don’t mean you’re doing it wrong. Beth Leipholtz shares how raising her son Coop reshaped her understanding of inclusion, communication, and letting go of control. You’ll walk away with reassurance, perspective, and practical insight for parenting with curiosity, compassion, and confidence.
Beth Leipholtz is a mom and storyteller who shares honest, joyful reflections on parenting, disability, and inclusion through her platform Beth & Coop. A passionate advocate for raising curious, empathetic kids while navigating life with humor and heart, she is also the author of The ABCs of Inclusion: A Disability Inclusion Book For Kids.
Thank you to Beth Leipholtz for being on our show!
Learn more about Beth Leipholtz, her platform Beth & Coop, and her book, The ABCs of Inclusion: A Disability Inclusion Book For Kids: https://bethandcoop.com/
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3. Trading “Bounce-Back” Culture for Maternal Well-being with Marlie Cohen
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2. Lightening The Parental Weight of Wills, Work, and Future Worries with Erin Bury
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17. BTS: The Truth Behind Parent Media
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