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015: The Cost of Silence
Beginning with the biblical story of Abraham, Sarah and Hagar, Amile & Phoebe trace the ways in which women’s choices have long been shaped by patriarchal forces.
Phoebe reflects on her experience of growing up culturally Catholic in Ireland. She shares personal insights from her time volunteering with the Repeal the Eighth campaign and the stories that shaped public understanding of abortion access. They also turn to America, drawing parallels between Ireland’s Magdalene Laundries and Liberty University’s Godparent Home.
Through the character of Bill Furlong in Clare Keegan’s Small Things Like These, they discuss what it means to act morally within systems built upon silence. Can small acts of courage ever truly be enough?
This episode pairs well with:
- Small Things Like These by Clare Keegan
- The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
- The Quiet Girl (Irish title: An Cailín Ciúin), 2022
- Liberty Lost (Audible Original podcast)
- Remembering Savita Halappanavar
- Lighting a candle for someone you never met
Happy listening,
A&P
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22. 022: All Eyez On Me
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21. 021: Daughters of the Diaspora
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20. 020: What Stayed With Us?
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19. 019: Trying (For A Baby)
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18. 018: Do You See Me As I See Me?
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17. 017: Please Like Me
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16. 016: Killer Instinct
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