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Pages and Prejudice

Where Romance Meets Rigor


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  • 10. E70: Manic Pixie Goth GF - the Commodification of Alt Girls in Media

    01:03:50||Season 4, Ep. 10
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com.Buy merch on Threadless or become a Patron to support the show!Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)Guests:Another Bad Salad (@anotherbadsald on tiktok and youtube) aka the Bob’s Burger’s ladyIt’s not a phase mom, this is who I am!Adrie and guest Holly (anotherbadsalad) dig into the "manic pixie goth girl" — the pop culture archetype of the politically-charged, aesthetically-consumed goth girl in teen and animated media, and why her actual beliefs almost always get tossed aside in favor of her look. From Ally Sheedy's makeover in The Breakfast Club to Jane Lane vs. Daria, Marceline's emotional labor in Adventure Time, Debbie Hyman in American Dad, the Hex Girls, and the underrated Wendell & Wild — they trace how goth girls get fetishized, disposed, tied to trauma, and rarely allowed to just be. Plus: the racialization of goth aesthetics, the goth-to-supernatural pipeline, and why the Catholic Church is actually very goth.Topics: goth girl trope, manic pixie dream girl, media criticism, animated media, fetishization, teen media, Daria, Danny Phantom, Teen Titans, American Dad, Wendell & Wild, fandom, representation, goth aestheticsReading Recommendations:Fiction:The Vampire Kisses series by Ellen SchreiberLeech by Hiron EnnesTelevision:Chilling Adventures of SabrinaMTV’s DowntownO’GradyFilm:The CraftForbidden FruitsPast Episodes:E45: Once You Go AlienE49: A Thin Line Between Love & HateE54: Gay Twitches! Gay Twitches!Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers

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  • 9. E69: Leave Room for My God Complex - Kink Panic and the New Puriteens

    01:28:51||Season 4, Ep. 9
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com.Buy merch on Threadless or become a Patron to support the show!Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)Leave room for Jesus, but it’s a 20 year old virgin on tiktok.Adrie and Stitch dig into how purity culture is making a comeback — not just from the religious right, but from within progressive fandom and online spaces — and why the result looks eerily similar from both ends of the political spectrum. They explore the "SVU-ification" of media, the rise of kink-shaming in fandom, why nuance is dead on the internet, and how algorithm-driven outrage is producing a generation that can't sit with discomfort — let alone articulate it. From discourse about problematic romance fiction and RPF, to the harassment of actors for being straight, to the hot takes on God of War's Begtse, this episode asks: are we actually protecting anyone, or are we just doing purity culture from the left?Topics: purity culture, fandom discourse, kink-shaming, consent language, SVU, romance fiction, RPF, problematic faves, fanfic, AO3, Heated Rivalry, and more.Reading Recommendations:Fiction:The Planet of Kings series by Lee Savino and Tabitha BlackThe Alpha Horde series by Milana JacksCold Sweat by Vera Valentinebasically anything by Loki ReynardManeaterRoyal ReincarnationThe Mating of ElvesHolesome Romance Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers
  • 8. E68: Graphic Romance - Hot Girls Read Webtoons Too

    01:16:22||Season 4, Ep. 8
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com. Buy merch on Threadless or become a Patron to support the show!Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)And what if I said erotica is a social good?From ukiyo-e erotica and Tijuana Bibles to webtoons and Kickstarter comics, Stitch and Adrie trace the surprisingly rich history of graphic romance. They cover the rise and fall of 1950s romance comics, the Comics Code's self-inflicted wounds, the erasure of Black and queer stories, and how manga, indie publishers, and the internet finally gave readers the romantic and erotic comics they actually wanted.Topics: romance comics history, Comics Code Authority, Fredric Wertham, manga and shojo, graphic novels, webtoons, queer comics, Jackie Ormes, Women in Refrigerators, Kickstarter adult comicsReading Recommendations:Fiction:IDW’s Weird Love Romance Comic Anthologies from 2014Break Protocols by SarybombArtificial Love by Maria LlovetThe Mafia NannyLore Olympus by Rachel SmytheSmut Peddler Presents: My Monster BoyfriendSunstone by Stjepan Šejić Starfighter by hamletmachineLucifer’s Garden by hamletmachineSuper Fun Sexy Times by Meredith McClarenVampire Knight by Matsuri HinoOuran High School Host Club by Bisco HatoriNon-Fiction:Comic Book Women: Characters, Creators, and Culture in the Golden Age by Peyton Brunet and Blair Davis with an introduction by Trina RobbinsLove on the Racks: A History of American Romance Comics by Michelle NolanSequential CrushRace and Romance from Love Between the CoversPodcasts:Service95 Book Club hosted by Dua LipaThe Great Comic Book Scare | History This WeekMusic: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers
  • 7. E67: Kill Your Alpha Holes - The Rise of the Dark Romance Antihero

    01:43:49||Season 4, Ep. 7
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com. Buy merch on Threadless or become a Patron to support the show!Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)Guests:Ella Dawson (@brosandprose on bsky and instagram) is an NYC-based sex and culture critic and the author of But How Are You, Really, a romance novel about college reunions and millennial angst. She is also the host of the Rebel Ever After podcast about progressive romance novels.If I’m going to suffer at the hands of a man, I would at least like a little narrative consistency.Hosts Adrie and Stitch explore the history of the romance hero — from bodice-ripping pirates to soft cinnamon rolls — and why the sociopath anti-hero is making a loud, alarming comeback. Then they sit down with Ella Dawson (Rebel Ever After podcast, But How Are You Really?) to talk about why readers are drawn to these narratives, what the rise of dark romance says about hetero pessimism and the modern dating landscape, the genre collapse between erotica and romance, and why asking "why do you like what you like?" shouldn't be a threat.Topics: dark romance, alpha heroes, romance tropes, genre criticism, consent in fiction, BookTok, feminist theoryReading Recommendations:Fiction:The Songs of Submission series by CD ReissThe Right to Bear Arms by Vivienne SavageTo Conquer a Highlander by Mary WineThe Fever series by Karen Marie MoningDevoured: The Serpent and the Pomegranate by Eunren and GamjajeonOne Night Only by seowooLove is an Illusion: the Queen by FargoSteel Under Silk by snobThe Devil in Winter by Lisa KleypasPot Shot by Laura Piper LeeWilling Prey by Allie OleanderBack for Seconds by Betty CorelloMusic: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers
  • 6. E66: Make Me Want You

    01:17:38||Season 4, Ep. 6
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com. Buy merch on Threadless to support the show!Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)Unfortunately, romance wouldn’t sell as well if the FMCs blocked the MMC every time he was annoying.Reading Recommendations:Fiction:Sensual Stress Relief by PochitaroThe Villainess is being Pleasure Interrogated by a Steely Knight Tell Me When You're Full! By pokerouI Got Isekai'd as a Succubus and Became the Familiar of a Super Sadistic Magician!Faeling by SE Wendel Hunger in His Blood by Zoey DravenOmega’s Gambit by Flora QuincyThe Georgina Kincaid series by Richelle MeadNon-Fiction:The Great Big Anita Blake Reread: Approaching the Ardeur (An Explainer)Music: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers
  • 5. E65: That's My Emotional Support Cinnamon Roll

    01:37:05||Season 4, Ep. 5
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com. Buy merch on Threadless to support the show!Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)The pandemic emotionally dysregulated me and all I got was this cozy romance novel.Reading Recommendations:Fiction:The Brown Sisters trilogy by Talia HibbertNecking by Chris SalvatoreAfter this episode was published, we learned that Sylvie Stray uses or used generative AI for several of her works. We do not support or endorse the use of any technology which promotes theft or degradation of the arts. These notes have been edited to remove the recommendation of her work.The Claws & Cubicle series by Kate PriorAdults’ Picture Book by Kei ItoiHawk & March by Charlie AmenBless by Yukino SonoyamaMusic: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers
  • 4. E64: What's Your Y/N?

    01:21:28||Season 4, Ep. 4
    Show Notes:Follow us on Instagram.Send inquiries to pagesandprejudicepod@gmail.com. Hosted by:Adrie Rose (@adrierising on bsky, twitter, instagram, & tiktok)Stitch (@stitch on bsky, @stitchmediamix on instagram)I accidentally made eye contact with Y/N and now HR is asking me to clean out my desk.Reading Recommendations:Fiction:Love and Deepspace (yes, the entire mobile game)Non-Fiction: Fanlore’s page on the Mary SueMusic: ⁠⁠HOLY MOLY⁠⁠ by Shane Ivers