On Tax
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1. Chris Fargo of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
29:21||Season 11, Ep. 1Chris Fargo is a partner in the Tax Department at Cravath. In the Season 11 premiere of On Tax, he and fellow Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about how an unexpectedly interesting tax class in law school led Chris to his current role at the Firm and the challenging and exciting client work he’s been involved in ever since. Chris also discusses how his lawyering skillset has evolved over time and shares advice for young lawyers transitioning from law school to practice.
Welcome to Season 11 of On Tax
01:46||Season 11, Ep. 0On Tax returns for Season 11 on Tuesday, March 17. This season, tune in as Cravath partner and podcast host Len Teti talks to professionals in the world of tax about what brought them to the field and the pivotal choices, challenges and connections that led them to their current roles. Next week’s guest is Cravath tax partner Chris Fargo, who discusses how an unexpectedly interesting tax class in law school led him to the Firm’s Tax Department and reflects on the challenging and exciting client work he’s been involved in ever since. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast/index.
6. Where Are They Now? Josh Gordon of Kyndryl
16:33||Season 10, Ep. 6Josh Gordon is the Treasurer and Senior Vice President of Tax at Kyndryl. In this “Where Are They Now?” episode of On Tax, Josh returns to talk with Cravath partner and host Len Teti about Josh’s career since he last appeared on the show as the Vice President, Finance – Controller for IBM Americas in Season 1. They also reflect on the value of staying open to unexpected opportunities and discuss how the synergy between certain business functions often has leaders in tax wearing multiple hats.
5. Danielle Rolfes of KPMG — LIVE at Georgetown University Law Center
55:28||Season 10, Ep. 5Danielle Rolfes is the Partner in Charge of the KPMG Washington National Tax practice. In this episode of On Tax, she and Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about Danielle’s upbringing, her early career choices and what she considers an unusual path to leadership in the world of tax in front of an audience of students and members of the D.C. community at Georgetown University Law Center for the show’s first live recording. They also discuss what Danielle most enjoys about working in a national tax practice, and the different paths available to young tax lawyers just beginning their careers.
4. Jack Bernstein of Aird & Berlis
22:47||Season 10, Ep. 4Jack Bernstein is the Senior Tax Partner at the law firm Aird & Berlis in Toronto, Canada. In this episode of On Tax, he and Cravath partner and host Len Teti discuss how Jack built his international tax practice, and the essential role relationship building has played throughout his career. They also share advice for young tax associates just starting out and reflect on the ways in which writing articles, attending conferences and joining law organizations helps legal professionals both hone their craft and establish themselves in the market.
3. Flashback Episode (Seasons 1-9)
24:58||Season 10, Ep. 3In this episode of On Tax, Cravath partner and host Len Teti revisits memorable segments and stories from across the past nine seasons in the show’s very first Flashback Episode. Len reflects on major themes that have arisen over the course of the show in his conversations with experts throughout the world of tax, including professional turning points; opportunities that follow challenges and setbacks; the invaluable impact of mentorship; and, of course, the hobbies and pursuits guests turn to in their spare time. Each season, On Tax guests have generously shared their stories—proving that this podcast has always been less about tax and more about people.
2. Vlad Izversky of Integral Ad Science
24:20||Season 10, Ep. 2Vlad Izversky is the Senior Vice President, Head of Global Tax and Treasury at Integral Ad Science. In this episode of On Tax, he and Cravath partner and host Len Teti discuss Vlad’s path from engineering school in the Soviet Union to studying accounting in the United States and the route he took from public accounting to his current in-house role. They also reflect on the multidisciplinary skills that enable tax professionals to excel across functions and discuss how strong leaders in the field add value by building trust with stakeholders at all levels.
1. Len Teti with Guest Host Steve Gordon of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
44:25||Season 10, Ep. 1Steve Gordon is a retired partner and former Head of the Tax Department at Cravath, who first appeared as an On Tax guest in the Season 1 pilot. In the show’s very first role reversal, Steve returns to talk with Cravath partner and host Len Teti not as a guest, but as a guest host. They discuss Len’s path to practicing tax law, their time working together in the Firm’s Tax Department and the valuable problem-solving role that tax practitioners play for clients.
Welcome to Season 10 of On Tax
01:44||Season 10, Ep. 0On Tax returns for Season 10 on Tuesday, September 9. This season, tune in as Cravath partner and podcast host Len Teti talks to professionals in the world of tax about their career journeys and the lessons, insights and professional relationships they’ve collected along the way. Next week, retired Cravath partner and former Head of the Tax Department Steve Gordon drops by for another conversation with Len—this time, they discuss working together in the Firm’s Tax Department, the importance of proactive teamwork and the valuable problem-solving role that tax practitioners play for clients. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast/index.
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