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Illegal fishing: Who is responsible?

Season 1, Ep. 5

Devastating economic damage, loss of biodiversity, slavery and violating human rights: illegal fishing is a serious criminal offence that is almost impossible to regulate.

In this episode, Euronews science reporter Jeremy Wilks asks investigative journalist Ian Urbina and marine biologist Dr. Daniel Pauly what impact illegal fishing is having on our lives and what can be done to stop it.


At the end of the episode, you will hear from aerial photographer George Steinmetz about his time spent on a squid boat in the South Atlantic.


Hosted by Jeremy Wilks. 


Produced by Naira Davlashyan and Natalia Oelsner. 


Editing is by Lory Martinez, Chiara Santella and Luis Lopez from Studio Ochenta. 


The theme music is by Gabriel Dalmasso. 


Our editor-in-chief is Sophie Claudet. 


For more from Ian Urbina click here


For more on Dr. Daniel Pauly’s work click here


To see more of George Steinmetz works, visit his Instagram profile.


If you want to learn more about Sea Shepherd operations to stop illegal fishing, visit their website



Created in partnership with the European Commission's Directorate-General for Maritime Affairs and Fisheries and is hosted by Euronews science reporter Jeremy Wilks.

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