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#006 Elijah on Yellow Squares, peak authenticity, and the unfortunate ubiquity of Joe Budden

Season 2, Ep. 6

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Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


Elijah is one of the deepest thinkers in underground culture. Having first come to prominence in the second wave of Grime along with Skilliam and their label Butterz, and as an artist manager to UK DJ Flava D amongst others, he has reinvented himself in recent years with the Yellow Squares project which seeks to encourage debate around the changing nature of the UK music scene.


His appearance on episode 41 of the audio-only predecessor of this show (link below) was one of the most popular and best episodes, so it's great to welcome him back for a full video episode.


The Yellow Squares project is now a book which you can get hold of here: https://velocitypress.uk/product/elijah-close-the-app-make-the-ting/


We discuss the changing landscape of the UK music scene, from the decline of music's audibility generally in London itself to the obligation (or not) of successful acts to support smaller venues. We also discuss the push for diversity in recent years and associated trap of tokenism, as well as the changing role of artist management over time and the obsession of Xtra radio programmers with a particular 20 year-old Joe Budden track.


And we also touch on the cultural influence of professional wrestling and the need for more heels in music...


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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


Chapters:

00:00 Intro and how you can support the show

07:30 Yellow Squares project phase 2

11:53 Not enough UK festival headliners

13:47 'We're a small nation of old people'

18:50 The need to do things differently

21:30 DJ AG is the most important DJ in the UK

25:55 Keep London loud

32:10 Should big DJs play in small clubs?

34:16 Black British music on vinyl

31:30 Corporate sell outs

46:10 Diversity of the money

54:00 Public speaking gigs

59:20 The changing role of artist managers

01:09:50 The problem with 1Xtra radio programming

01:17:25 The role of the BBC in music

01:19:40 Peak authenticity: kayfabe and UK music

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