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Esther MacKay
Esther McKay served 17 years with the NSW Police where the majority of her career was spent in Forensic Services, where her expertise in crime scene, vehicle and document examination was often called upon from colleagues and the courts.
What Esther was confronted with is often difficult listening, but they are stories which need to be told, to help in understanding the situations Police are so often confronted with in their quest to keep us all safe and assist in convicting those who have no concept or care of that safety we seek.
Esther shares an amazing insight into some of the more memorable crime scenes she attended and the toll those crimes scenes eventually took upon her, particularly when a contract was put on her life, such was her level of knowledge and expertise.
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204. Investigating Child Abuse
45:07||Season 6, Ep. 204I’ve been contacted a bit of late by some media organisations for my response to the news Police had arrested and charged a 45yo former childcare worker from the Gold Coast with 1623 child abuse offences — including rape, against 87 children in Australia. He had worked in multiple childcare centres in Brisbane and Sydney and another overseas where he’d collected nearly 4000 images and videos he allegedly shared on the dark web.The investigation was a joint investigation between the AFP, Qld Police & the Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation. I thought I might explain a little about the amazing, incredibly difficult but necessary work the ACCCE do, which I’m not sure, but I think they used to be what I knew as JACET – Joint Anti Child Exploitation Team.203. Mark Bagally - Drug, Rape and Armed Robbery Squads
01:15:00||Season 6, Ep. 203In 1998 Bags (Bagally) woke up and felt like painting – nothing in particular, just buying a brush and painting. And something clicked.Painting became his passion and Policing began to take a back seat. Bags loved being totally absorbed in what he was painting where he thought of nothing else. Knowing very little about art & its history, Bags educated himself through reading books, listening to arty CD’s and when he eventually retired from Policing, the transition to Painter was smooth sailing.Bags is now a renowned landscape and seascape painter, is an exhibiting member on the Council of the Victorian Artists Society, the Watercolor Society of Victorian, the Australian Guild of Realist Artists and the Contemporary Art Society & National Vice President and Treasurer of the Australian Society of Marine Artists to name a few.202. Non Fatal Strangulation
38:53||Season 6, Ep. 202In this episode we are discussing, in detail, the reasonably new offence (In Victoria) of Non fatal strangulation moreso in a DV situation – its pretty confronting, so just consider if today’s subject matter is right for you.TODAY I WANTED TO TALK MORE ABOUT STRANGULATION IN A DV SENSE, NOT WHAT SOME MAY DEEM PLEASURABLE. TODAY IS ABOUT THOSE WHO STRANGLE AS A FORM OF CONTROL, AS A FORM OF FEAR, USED AS A THREAT WHICH WE CALL NON FATAL STRANGULATION200. The Parole System - Paul Charles Denyer
36:10||Season 6, Ep. 200Parole was a much talked about subject back in 2023 when there was a possibility Paul Charles Denyer could be released from prison after 30yrs behind bars for the brutal, sadistic murders of 3 young innocent women.This was a patreon episode where I explain a little about the parole system, the role of The Parole Board and Community Corrections Victoria in assessing whether someone is suitable for release into the community or too high a risk to community safety.I then share some of my thoughts on Paul Denyer and his obsession with vulnerable women and my hope he is NEVER released.199. Marjorie’s Law
01:10:54||Season 6, Ep. 199Rosemary Harwood, is as genuine, honest and raw as you can get. Rosie doesn’t own a computer, so we had to settle for a phone interview. The sound isn’t great, but if you can persevere, it’s well worth a listen. I’d rather you hear our interview than not. Rosie’s trans daughter Marjorie (who has since passed away due to kidney disease) alleged horrific sexual abuse during custodial sentences she served in a Tasmanian prison for shoplifting, bail breaches and other relatively minor offences. Rosie states the prison ignored protocols and procedures regarding transgender, transexual and Intersex prisoners, in placing Marjorie in a male prison. ‘Marjorie’s Law’ is Rosie’s campaign to highlight the inadequacies of prison systems which ignore basic human rights such as dignity and respect and her wish for better recognition and protection of transgender people in Australia’s prison services198. Dr. Leith Middleton part 2
43:51||Season 6, Ep. 198Dr. Leith Middleton’s expertise is primarily in psychology, psychological health and safety safety organizational development where she supports workplaces to build mentally healthy workplaces. Part of this is about identifying safety managing psychological hazards in the workplace. That whole term (psychological hazards in the workplace) brings a smile to my face because it was an unknown term for so many of us who began work in the 70’s safety 80’s. It’s a term which wasn’t in our vocabulary back then……We’ve come a long way. A bit like the term ‘coercive control’ or gaslighting – they are terms many of us had never heard. The majority of Leith’s work is advising workplaces leaders on psychosocial risk mitigation. This includes industries with workers routinely exposed to potentially traumatic material or events safety finding more rigorous ways to mitigate risks to their workers. There is increasing expectations under elevated WH&S legislation to respond to risks in a more systemic way. In saying that, I feel we may have gone to the other extreme as managers often feel unsure or hesitate in acknowledging someone may not be coping, for fear of being accused of delving into someone’s personal life safety overstepping their responsibilities. I’m looking forward to drilling down with Leith in relation to the tendency of many to blame violent or aggressive actions on ‘mental health’, helping people to understand the difference between mental illness and mental health safety how the term “mental health issues” is becoming over-used safety often misunderstood.197. Dr. Leith Middleton part 1
40:26||Season 6, Ep. 197Dr. Leith Middleton’s expertise is primarily in psychology, psychological health and safety safety organizational development where she supports workplaces to build mentally healthy workplaces. Part of this is about identifying safety managing psychological hazards in the workplace. That whole term (psychological hazards in the workplace) brings a smile to my face because it was an unknown term for so many of us who began work in the 70’s safety 80’s. It’s a term which wasn’t in our vocabulary back then……We’ve come a long way. A bit like the term ‘coercive control’ or gaslighting – they are terms many of us had never heard. The majority of Leith’s work is advising workplaces leaders on psychosocial risk mitigation. This includes industries with workers routinely exposed to potentially traumatic material or events safety finding more rigorous ways to mitigate risks to their workers. There is increasing expectations under elevated WH&S legislation to respond to risks in a more systemic way. In saying that, I feel we may have gone to the other extreme as managers often feel unsure or hesitate in acknowledging someone may not be coping, for fear of being accused of delving into someone’s personal life safety overstepping their responsibilities. I’m looking forward to drilling down with Leith in relation to the tendency of many to blame violent or aggressive actions on ‘mental health’, helping people to understand the difference between mental illness and mental health safety how the term “mental health issues” is becoming over-used safety often misunderstood. Saying someone has “mental health issues” which caused them to perpetrate a violent crime seems to Leith, to be overly simplistic.196. TIM PECK – THE INVISIBLE OBVIOUS
01:05:37||Season 6, Ep. 196Tim Peck was an amazing Policeman – he had a presence, he was smart and he had that air of confidence & intelligence. He was popular, charismatic and just a great guy to be around. But underneath that façade was a man crumbling big time. He was hiding so many fears, insecurities, anxieties and alcohol dependency and for those like me who knew and worked with him, it came as a huge shock to learn about “the real Tim”. Tim’s highly decorated career shattered and came to an abrupt, dramatic end when he crashed his police car whilst drunk, abusing those members who attended the scene, and then caught a train to regional Victoria to end a life he couldn’t face anymore. He believed his family, friends & everyone else would be better off without him. Somehow Tim crawled out of this black hole. In his recently released book, ‘The Invisible Obvious’, Tim takes us through the mess he made of his life & the challenges he faced in trying to resurrect that mess.