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Distrokid Is For Sale! Is This Good For Musicians?
In this episode of My Point Four Cents, Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, and Andrew Southworth dive deep into the recent news that music distribution giant DistroKid is apparently up for sale. The crew explores whether this could mean notorious customer service improvements, unpacks why user support has become so problematic across various distribution platforms, and how profitability and automation may be influencing decision-making at the top. Jesse shares his conversation with Joshua Redbeard, the influential host of Short, Fast, Loud, and co-founder of Grayscale and Ninth Life Records, illuminating how passion and punk rock ethics shaped his journey from underage DJ to respected label head and radio voice. They also delve into how storytelling shapes artist marketing, the role of online comments in algorithm growth, what it really takes to start and run a record label, and how both human interaction and data-driven tactics are influencing modern music exposure in 2024.
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30. Is Spotify Really Making A Music Middle Class?
01:00:26||Season 1, Ep. 30Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon discuss Spotify's colossal payouts to artists. As the conversation unfolds, they explore the intricacies of label deals and the reality behind Spotify's royalty distribution, offering insight into how record deals might impact earnings. The team also shares dos and don’ts in marketing, dispelling misconceptions around the effectiveness of certain strategies like influencer campaigns and pre-saves. Guest Maddie Elyse of Shark Attack and 19 Entertainment joins the discussion, shedding light on artist development post-reality shows like American Idol. The episode provides an intriguing blend of industry secrets and marketing truths, giving listeners a well-rounded understanding of what truly drives success in music today.
29. TikTokPocalypse Is Threads The Winner?
01:06:24||Season 1, Ep. 29Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon discuss the aftermath of TikTok's challenging week and its impact on content reach. The discussion delves into how artists are responding to changes in TikTok's algorithm and shifting their focus to platforms like Instagram and Threads. Jesse dives deep into an engaging interview with Chris Dalariva, the author of "Uncharted Territory," exploring the history and evolution of Billboard charts, the concept of hits being 'rigged,' and how music has transformed over decades. The conversation also touches on Anna's Archive, a site that controversially scraped Spotify's data, leading to massive legal actions against it. The hosts ponder the implications of technology on music preservation and the broader cultural importance of archiving media, drawing parallels with other industries like gaming. The episode examines the delicate balance between the open web ideals and the realities of copyright and intellectual property.
28. Is TikTok Over For Musicians?
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27. LIVE FROM NAMM: Answering Musicians Marketing Questions!!!
01:20:56||Season 1, Ep. 27In this special episode filmed live at NAMM, the team talks with a wide range of attendees and musicians about music promotion, branding, and the evolving landscape of social media marketing for artists. Topics include growing email and SMS lists, balancing creative authenticity with engaging content, pitching for sponsorships, running effective ad campaigns on small budgets, and building a standout image in a band. The discussion also touches on how artists can leverage their DIY roots, navigate the challenges of ads that underperform, and find their niche audience. With insights from real artists and experts in various aspects of music marketing, the episode is packed with actionable advice and behind-the-scenes perspectives from some of the industry’s sharpest minds.
26. Spotify Launches Stories, Social Listening & More
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25. Music Marketing 2026: Insider Predictions!
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24. How Black Veil Brides Built Their Fanbase
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