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Mortal And Strong - Episode 17 - Dawn

Season 1, Ep. 17

The latest episode of Mortal And Strong and we are introducing Voice No. 16 of 100 - the incredible Dawn. Dawn is sharing her experience of living with fibroids; how the onset of symptoms began with puberty and how for years was led to believe from those around her (including the healthcare system) that the warning signs of fibroids were 'normal periods'. Dawn shares how this false belief that her heavy and painful periods were normal meant that by the time she was finally diagnosed with fibroids, she had 16 including extremely large ones that were blocking her fallopian tubes and affecting her fertility. Dawn goes on to discuss the different treatment options for fibroids, her own journey following a myomectomy which helped her finally conceive her daughter. After years of suffering, at the age of 39 Dawn finally had her first 'healthy happy period'. This journey is so familiar to so many and here we explore this false narrative that has been laid down that heavy/painful periods are normal - when in actual fact can be the warning signs of serious pathological disease that can be organ/fertility/life threatening. Dawn is now thriving, and is a multi-award winning advocate in the fibroid community - determined to raise awareness and educate people not only on the existence of fibroids but in particular what treatment options are available to women affected. We are delighted to have Dawn share her story with us and be part of the MAS 2024 project.


Mortal And Strong is a campaign shining the spotlight on women facing their own mortality - those affected at a young age by a life changing illness or disease. Founded by Dr Liz Murray, presented by Dr Liz Murray with Laura Middleton-Hughes. Interviewing Dawn Heels. Photography by Sammy Weston.


For more information on support available for these issues discussed in todays episode, including direction to medical information, visit our website. This episode is not intended as specific medical advice, always see your own GP/physician if you have any concerns regarding your own health. 

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