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Anthony Doerr, CLOUD CUCKOO LAND: A Novel

Season 14, Ep. 60

"I love to use my work as a way to rectify my ignorances." Pulitzer Prize-winning author Anthony Doerr joins Zibby to talk about Cloud Cuckoo Land, which is out in paperback today! The two discuss the piece of often forgotten history that inspired one-third of this story, how the pandemic and our current political climate impacted Anthony's reading and writing, and why he wanted to depict the power of storytelling. Zibby also asks Anthony about the experiences depicted in his 2007 memoir, Four Season in Rome, and what life is like now that his twin sons have left for college.


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