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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl

AI Influencers, Feminine Futurism, VR Landscape, and Apple Vision Pro vs. Meta Quest with Katie McIntyre and Lee Kebler

Season 2, Ep. 6

In this episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler and guest co-host Katie McIntyre discuss AI and VR's evolving roles in technology, fashion, and marketing. Katie, a Toronto-based designer and founder of Matriarch, shares insights on "feminine futurism" and the challenges of AI influencers, highlighting potential ethical risks, particularly around body image. They critique Apple’s Vision Pro, comparing it with Meta’s VR approach, and question whether Apple understands user needs. The conversation explores the balance between AI and human connection, emphasizing that while AI offers intriguing tools, it cannot replace authentic relationships, urging more ethical development in tech innovation.


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Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


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Katie McIntyre Bio

Katie McIntyre is a visionary Creative Director, Fashion and Industrial Designer, Film Director, VFX Artist, Ivy League Lecturer, and Women’s Rights Advocate. Founder of Katie McIntyre Studio, she collaborates with artists like Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, and Lizzo, crafting iconic album and product designs, films, and VFX for live shows. Her “feminine futurism” philosophy drives collaborations with brands such as Mugler, Puma, and Amazon, and her work has graced stages like Coachella. Named a “World’s Leading Female VFX Artist” by Time and a “Leader of Tomorrow” by the St. Gallen Symposium, she is also CEO of Matriarch, dedicated to empowering women through innovative design.


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Katie McIntyre Studio Website


Key Discussion Topics

  • 00:00 - Introduction and Guest Introduction
  • 2:38 - Puma's AI Influencer Announcement
  • 10:01 - Authenticity in Marketing
  • 16:31 - Ethical Considerations of AI Representation
  • 22:21 - Apple's Product Announcements and M4 Chip
  • 28:01 - Critique of Apple Vision Pro and VR Strategy
  • 32:11 - Market Demographics and User Behavior
  • 36:13 - Applications of VR in Industry
  • 48:01 - AI as a Substitute for Human Friendship

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