TechMagic with Cathy Hackl

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the fascinating, funny, and sometimes unsettling intersection between humans and machines. From Cathy’s “shopping date” with humanoid robot Maximus to Amazon’s ambitious plans to automate its warehouses, the hosts unpack how AI and robotics are reshaping work and daily life. They also discuss Samsung’s entry into the XR race with the Galaxy headset, the return of Bored Ape Yacht Club’s metaverse project, and innovations like direct-to-vinyl recording. With equal parts humour and insight, Cathy and Lee decode how today’s emerging technologies are redefining what’s possible, and what’s still human.Come for the tech and stay for the magic!Cathy Hackl BioCathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. Cathy Hackl on LinkedInSpatial Dynamics on LinkedInLee Kebler BioLee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.Lee Kebler on LinkedInKey Discussion Topics:00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler01:30 Shopping with Maximus: A Human-Robot Retail Adventure10:35 Amazon's Automation Revolution: 600,000 Jobs Going Robotic18:30 The AI Bubble: Debating the Reality of AGI and Market Hype28:40 Understanding ChatGPT's Limitations and Technical Challenges37:00 Samsung Galaxy XR: A New Player in the XR Hardware Space43:50 Amazon's HUD Glasses and the Future of Spatial Computing50:25 Bored Ape Yacht Club Returns with "Otherside" Metaverse Project54:58 Upcoming Events and a Deep Dive into Vintage Audio Technology

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, and Apple's quiet Vision Pro updates, they deep dive into it all! The AI landscape is evolving faster than you can say the word and so are its implications on content, creativity and commerce. Just like Cathy’s travels from Singapore to South Africa, your favourite Tech Magic pair are jetsetting into the world of technology, offering a global perspective on where we’re heading and the ethical questions we need to address.Cathy Hackl BioCathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.Cathy Hackl on LinkedInSpatial Dynamics on LinkedInLee Kebler BioLee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.Lee Kebler on LinkedInKey Discussion Topics:[00:00] Intro to TechMagic [01:15] What the Hell AWS? How a Global Outage Caused Chaos[04:30] Going Global: Tech Perspectives from Singapore to South Africa[08:00] OpenAI's Sora 2: Questions of Purpose and Ethics[14:30] Pinterest Takes a Stand Against AI-Generated Content[17:00] OpenAI's Controversial Move into Adult Content[25:30] Apple's Quiet Hardware Updates and Vision Pro Changes[31:00] Gaming Evolution: From Atari to Interactive Documentaries[35:00] Final Thoughts and Future Conference Plans

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee explore the evolving intersection of AI, creativity, and ethics. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week. Meanwhile, Lee and Adam delve into OpenAI’s Sora 2 and its implications for digital rights, content authenticity, and ethical innovation. The hosts examine Nintendo’s research on gaming’s cognitive benefits, Apple Vision Pro’s NBA partnership, and the Windows 10 end-of-support scenario. They also discuss AI’s energy consumption and emerging global regulations on intellectual property. Perfect for tech enthusiasts, creators, and industry professionals, this episode provides balanced insights into the opportunities and responsibilities that accompany today’s rapidly evolving digital landscape.Come for the tech, stay for the magic!Adam Davis-McGee BioAdam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedInKey Discussion Topics:00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Lee Kebler and ADM04:07 Exploring Artist Reactions to AI: Surprising Enthusiasm in LA08:03 Sora 2: Ethical Concerns and Digital Rights23:55 AI Content Bias: OpenAI's Power Consumption Story33:20 Roblox's New Parent Council: Better Late Than Never38:35 Nintendo Debunks Gaming Myths: Benefits for Attention Span42:47 Apple Vision Pro: NBA License and VR History46:41 Windows 10 Support Ending: What Users Need to Know50:30 Recommendations and Closing Thoughts

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the week’s biggest tech stories, from OpenAI’s latest announcements and Sora’s deepfake potential to Meta’s sold-out Ray-Ban smart glasses. They explore how AI integrations with platforms like Coursera, Canva, and Zillow could reshape how we access and trust information. The hosts also dive into the implications of skyrocketing AI startup valuations and reflect on the end of AOL dial-up, closing a chapter in internet history. Balancing enthusiasm with caution, they challenge listeners to consider the ethical, social, and creative consequences of an increasingly AI-driven world.Come for the tech and stay for the magic!Episode Highlights:The Privacy Implications of AI Video Generation – Cathy Hackl’s hands-on test of OpenAI’s Sora exposes major privacy challenges around biometric data and deepfake creation. By simply reading numbers and moving one’s head, users can generate hyper-realistic videos of themselves or others, without consent. While visuals are striking, voice replication remains flawed. Cathy and Lee caution that such tools blur ethical lines, raising urgent questions about consent, authenticity, and data ownership in creative AI adoption.OpenAI’s Vision for Information Control – Lee Kebler dissects OpenAI’s ambition to centralise online experiences through deep integrations with Coursera, Canva, and Zillow. By keeping users inside ChatGPT’s ecosystem, OpenAI could redefine how information flows, but at a cost. Cathy and Lee warn that algorithmic filtering may restrict perspective diversity, amplify bias, and erode the open web’s foundational freedom. Their advice: diversify digital sources to maintain balanced, transparent information access.The Rise of Consumer AR Hardware – Meta’s Ray-Ban smart glasses sell-out reveals the next leap in wearable adoption. Cathy and Lee analyse how fashion-forward design, practical utility, and accessible pricing have made AR more approachable. Positioned between novelty and necessity, these wearables hint at future accessibility, productivity, and communication uses. They stress that long-term success will depend on ergonomic design, battery life, and balancing innovation with real-world wearability.The AI Investment Bubble Warning Signs – Cathy and Lee discuss mounting worries from industry giants like Sam Altman and Jeff Bezos about inflated AI valuations. Unlike past bubbles driven by retail hype, today’s surge stems from institutional overconfidence and misunderstanding of AI fundamentals. Many investors conflate general AI with LLMs, fuelling unrealistic expectations. Key Discussion Topics:00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler01:44 Testing OpenAI's Sora: Deep Fake Capabilities and Privacy Concerns15:02 OpenAI's Dev Day: Impressive Tools and Integration Announcements18:09 The Dark Side of AI Integration: Information Control and Filter Bubbles25:23 Apple's Vision Pro Updates and Meta's Ray-Ban Success32:41 Farewell to AOL: The End of Dial-Up Internet Era34:17 AI Startup Valuations: Warning Signs of a Tech Bubble38:05 Final Thoughts: Music Recommendations and Show Wrap-Up

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler delve into the latest developments in tech, from Meta’s hardware updates to AI advancements and parental controls. Cathy interviews Tom Acland, CEO at Dassault Systèmes 3DEXCITE. Learn how the Apple Vision Pro is transforming enterprise collaboration and why we're finally reaching the tipping point for widespread adoption of spatial computing technology. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or industry professional, this episode delivers sharp insights into the intersection of AI, spatial computing, and enterprise innovation. Cathy and Lee also discuss why current LLMs won’t lead to superintelligence and they debate the impact of AI on sports.Come for the tech and stay for the magic!Tom Acland BioTom Acland is the CEO at Dassault Systèmes’ 3DEXPERIENCE division, where he drives innovation in enterprise spatial computing and manufacturing. He specialises in bridging engineering and media technology, helping clients like Hyundai, Virgin Galactic, and Deutsche Aircraft bring products to market through advanced visualization and collaboration tools. In this episode, Tom discusses Dassault Systèmes’ work with Apple Vision Pro and their 3D Live app, sharing insights on the future of spatial computing, mixed reality, and transforming enterprise collaboration.Tom Acland on LinkedInKey Discussion Topics:00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cath Hackl and Lee Kebler01:40 Meta Connect Reflections and Failed Demos06:19 OpenAI's Hallucinations: Mathematical Inevitability08:50 ChatGPT's Parental Controls and Real-World Applications13:11 The Evolution of AI Music and Creative Tools16:39 Friend.com: Marketing AI Hardware Without Mentioning AI19:13 AI Boyfriends and Celebrity Voice Clones31:37 Baseball's Robot Umpires: Technology vs Tradition34:22 Interview: Tom Acland on Enterprise Spatial Computing39:08 Dassault Systèmes' 3D Live App for Apple Vision Pro42:52 Industries Embracing Spatial Computing Technology46:28 The Future of Spatial Computing: Next 5-10 Years50:55 Balancing Innovation with User Trust and Safety54:10 Final Thoughts and Media Recommendations

In this episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler is joined by Nic Hill, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of Sawhorse Productions, to explore the latest tech developments shaping our digital world. Together, they break down Meta Connect’s memorable moments and mobile-first pivot with Horizon Worlds, Intel’s surprising $5B partnership with NVIDIA, and Lee’s first-hand experience with Waymo’s autonomous vehicles. The discussion also covers TikTok’s potential acquisition by Oracle and the future of AR glasses and spatial computing. With insider insights and thoughtful analysis, Lee and Nic unpack how legacy tech companies are navigating rapid innovation, offering a must-listen guide for tech enthusiasts and professionals alike. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week.Come for the tech and stay for the magic!Lee Kebler Bio:Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.Lee Kebler on LinkedInNic Hill Bio:Nic Hill is the Co-Founder and Chief Innovation Officer at Sawhorse Productions, a full-service production and post house specialising in branded content, commercials, and scripted and non-scripted shows. With over 12 years of experience, Nic has assembled a talented team of experts in video production, editing, and comedy. Passionate about immersive metaverse experiences that blur the line between film and gaming, he delivers innovative content for leading brands, studios, and agencies worldwide. Previously, Nic worked as an independent film director and editor, creating internationally acclaimed documentaries. Based in Los Angeles, he enjoys DJing, biking, and family time.Nic Hill on LinkedInKey Discussion Topics:00:00 Intro & Welcome from LA05:31 Inside MetaConnect: A Front Row Perspective08:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Evolution & Design Strategy21:27 Horizon Worlds' Mobile-First Transformation33:35 First-Hand Experience with Waymo's Self-Driving Cars40:45 NVIDIA's $5B Investment in Intel: Gaming's Future44:30 Oracle's TikTok Acquisition & Social Media Shifts51:25 The Smart Glasses Arms Race: Amazon & OpenAI Enter55:31 Final Thoughts: Alien Earth & AI Evolution

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of hardware innovation, from Meta’s anticipated Connect event to Nintendo’s bold gaming moves. They unpack Meta’s AI-powered smart glasses collaborations, Amazon’s push into wearable tech, and Nintendo’s surprising Virtual Boy revival. Alongside hardware news, Cathy and Lee examine the deeper cultural and societal shifts at play, and how AI-driven personal superintelligence could reshape user experience, privacy, and even fashion. Packed with insider insights, this episode highlights why hardware is no longer just functional but increasingly a cultural statement at the intersection of technology and humanity.Next in Vogue Singapore: https://vogue.sg/nextinvogue/Singularity Summit South Africa: https://singularitysouthafricasummit.org/Come for the tech, stay for the magic.Key Discussion Topics:00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler02:03 Apple's Disappointing Hardware Event: A Missed Opportunity06:28 Meta Connect Preview: The Hypernova Moment for AI and XR11:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Strategy: From Ray-Ban to Luxury Brands17:30 The Vision for Personal Superintelligence and AI Evolution28:00 Social Media's Algorithm Problem: A Facebook Case Study36:50 The Hardware Race Heats Up: Amazon, HTC, and Samsung Join In37:15 Nintendo's Virtual Boy Revival: A Controversial Return44:10 Smart Game Pricing: Hollow Knight's Market Strategy Success53:15 Final Thoughts: The Future of Tech, Media Recommendations, and Closing

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of space and digital entertainment, and discuss AI-driven space operations, Roblox’s expansion with 100,000-player servers, and Paramount’s Call of Duty film adaptation. From esports acquisitions shaping global markets to safety and privacy in AI wearables, the conversation touches on several key tech trends that are influencing our world. Cathy interviews Thierry Klein, President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia. They uncover how Nokia built the first cellular network on the moon, laying the foundation for a sustainable lunar economy and future Mars missions.Come for the tech and stay for the magic!Thierry Klein BioThierry Klein is the President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia, a pioneering figure in space communications and network infrastructure. With extensive experience in telecommunications and space technology, Klein leads research initiatives focused on AI, Web3, and new device technologies at the historic Bell Labs, which is celebrating its centennial year. He has played a pivotal role in delivering the first cellular network on the moon during the Intuitive Machines' IM2 mission, marking a historic milestone in space communications.Thierry Klein on LinkedInKey Discussion Topics:00:00 Intro and Show Updates02:20 Nokia's Innovation Campus in Finland - A Hub for Future Tech04:44 Space Technology and Lunar Networks - Nokia's Groundbreaking Mission27:36 Building the First Cellular Network on the Moon 35:36 Transforming Astronaut Operations with Advanced Communications40:41 The Future of Lunar Economy and Infrastructure48:46 Interplanetary Communications and the Space Internet55:13 AI's Role in Space Operations and Networks01:10 Roblox Developer Conference Updates and Safety Features01:19 Gaming Industry Updates: Call of Duty Movie and EVO Tournament News01:27 Wearable AI Technology Review and Future Outlook01:30 Closing Thoughts and Show Wrap-up

In this exciting return of TechMagic in season 3, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler sit down with Kevin Rose, founder of Digg and partner at True Ventures, to explore the future of digital communities and human-first technology. Together, they discuss the ambitious Digg relaunch in partnership with Reddit’s co-founder, Alexis Ohanian, the challenges of building trust and safety on online platforms, and the disruptive role of AI in shaping content and jobs. From redefining how we talk about AI “hallucinations” to highlighting the rising importance of authentic human connection, this episode provides fresh insights into the evolving relationship between technology, community, and our shared digital future.Come for the Tech, stay for the Magic!What you will learn:Building Trust in Digital CommunitiesThe Power of Niche CommunitiesStrategic AI IntegrationThe Return to Real-World ConnectionKevin Rose BioKevin Rose is a pioneering tech entrepreneur, investor, and partner at True Ventures. He is best known as the founder of Digg, the first major social news platform. Over his 25+ year career, he has launched and led multiple ventures, including Revision3 (acquired by Discovery), Zero (the leading intermittent fasting app), and served as CEO of Hodinkee. Rose has been an early angel investor in Twitter, Square, Facebook, and more, earning recognition from Bloomberg, Forbes, MIT, and Time as one of the most influential figures in tech. His focus today is building trustworthy, human-first digital communities and advancing the future of online platforms.Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 1Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 2Key Discussion Topics:00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic Season 303:19 Adventures in Finland & India: Cathy's Global Tech Journey07:05 ChatGPT Drama: Checking on AI Boyfriends12:12 Kevin Rose Interview: The Return of Digg18:22 Building Trust in Digital Communities28:30 The Future of In-Person Meetups32:19 AI Integration & Human Connection39:16 Meta Connect & Smart Glasses Privacy Concerns42:17 The Roblox Safety Debate51:32 AWS vs. Salesforce: The Entry-Level Jobs Controversy59:26 Finding Balance in a Tech-Saturated World01:13:14 Final Thoughts: Gratitude & Music Recommendations