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Yahweh vs. Chemosh: Battle of the Hebrew War Gods in II Kings 3:26

Season 3, Ep. 4

Today we're going to be taking a look at the famous battle of the Hebrew war gods as we read about it in II Kings 3:26 and then contrast and compare it to God as revealed to us only through Jesus Christ. Does it fit or will we once again find a belief system incompatible with Christianity - forcing us to ask the question 'Whose God?'

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FBN podcast episodes: 

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Spoilers:

https://www.compellingtruth.org/Moabites.html

http://web.mit.edu/jywang/www/cef/Bible/NIV/NIV_Bible/2KGS+3.html

https://apologeticspress.org/ruth-david-and-a-moabite-mandate-5633/

https://classroom.synonym.com/religious-offerings-and-sacrifices-to-the-greek-gods-12086670.html

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-moabites

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