Here are the <a href="https://www.marksandspencer.com/food/6g-protein-smoked-paprika-popped-red-lentil-tortillas/p/fdp60722365" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mighty snacks</a> we discuss early on. Not a sponsor. Would accept sponsorship. Here's Vanessa's brilliant poem <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3DKfaK50AU" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hollow</a>, which I reference halfway through. Buy Vanessa's new book Neverland - The Pleasures and Perils of Fandom <a href="https://canongate.co.uk/books/4191-neverland-the-pleasures-and-perils-of-fandom/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>!

The Trouble with The State of the World featuring Vanessa Kisuule

Check out <a href="https://www.austentatiousimpro.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Austentatious</a>, the improvised Jane Austen novel. Buy Rachel's book Advice From Strangers <a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/advice-from-strangers-everything-i-know-from-people-i-don-t-know-rachel-parris/7328812" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>. Here's the song Rachel mentions, Tim Minchin singing <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ym1EcV_NY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My House</a> from Matilda.

The Trouble with Ambition, featuring Rachel Parris

Check out Joe's book, Children of Radium, published by Hamish Hamilton. Here's a recent Guardian <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/07/children-of-radium-by-joe-dunthorne-review-complicity-courage-and-cowardice-examined-in-a-slippery-marvel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">review</a> to give you a sense of it. <a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/410939/hhhh-by-laurent-binet/9780099555643" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Here's a link</a> to the book Joe referenced at the end, HHhH by Laurent Binet.

The Trouble with Family featuring Joe Dunthorne

Introducing Making Trouble

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The podcast about the trouble we're having with the things we're making.

Welcome to Making Trouble, the podcast about the trouble we’re having with the things we’re making. I’m your host, Molly Naylor. I love talking to people about what they’re struggling with creatively, and why. Join me and my guests as we navigate a range of creative hurdles, from the trivial to the existential.

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Introducing Making Trouble