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From Exclusion to Participation with Christoph Warrack

Season 3, Ep. 2

In this episode of "Making the Difference," host Kirsty Gilchrist is in conversation with Christoph Warrack, CEO of Woodland Savers. They explore Christoph's fascinating journey from a rural upbringing to leading impactful social enterprises and environmental initiatives. They talk exclusion, homelessness, community empowerment, sustainable land stewardship, and aligning personal passion with global needs. All based on the theory of change that moving from exclusion to participation is essential, because it allows self-discovery while isolation harms health.


From early days in London developing a film-making hub for homeless people, to it spreading throughout Europe and moving into conservation, Christoph talks us through


  • how empowering local communities can revolutionise conservation efforts
  • Innovative models for sustainable land stewardship


Key insights include:

- The importance of aligning personal values with professional service

- Strategies for engaging local communities in environmental initiatives

- Leveraging social enterprise structures for greater impact



Links mentioned:

Woodland Savers - Communities for Nature

Ted Talk - Homeless need culture too

Ikigai - Wikipedia


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