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Making Sense with Marina Abramović
For the first episode of Making Sense, host Tim Marlow (art historian and director of the Design Museum, London) travels to New York to speak with the world’s best-known performance and conceptual artist, Marina Abramović.
Join them as they discuss the moments that have shaped her extraordinary career. From early childhood memories to the extremes of Rhythm 0 and The Artist Is Present, Marina reflects on fear, transcendence, endurance, and the search for “full emptiness.”
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Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.
Portrait of Marina Abramović, 2025
Photo by Marco Anelli
Courtesy Lisson Gallery
Credits:
Producer: Emilia Eyre
Recordist & Editor: David Clack
Project Manager: Katie Burdett
Series graphics: Rosie Leggett
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01:20||Season 1, Ep. 0Launching Tuesday 25 November 2025.Where do ideas come from? And what does it mean to create something in today’s world? Join the art historian and director of London's Design Museum, Tim Marlow, as he makes sense of it all in conversation with the biggest names in art, design and architecture.Making Sense: Conversations on Creativity is a Cultureshock production, available wherever you get your podcasts.