Lez Hang Out | A Lesbian Podcast
612: Lez-ssentials The Handmaiden
Season 6, Ep. 12
If we could be yours for ten minutes, what would you give in exchange? This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) talk about the 2016 Korean lesbian film The Handmaiden for this Lez-ssentials episode, a recurring segment on the essential movies and TV shows in the lesbian canon. If you have not yet seen this movie, do not listen to this episode until you have! It is highly spoiler heavy and the movie is honestly best when you go into it with no expectations. Don’t say we didn’t warn you. The Handmaiden is an emotional rollercoaster, but you can breathe easier knowing that there is a happy ending for our lesbians. The story follows Sook-Hee, a young woman who is hired to be a handmaiden for Japanese heiress, Lady Hideko. We soon learn that she was actually hired by The Count to help him defraud Lady Hideko and steal all her riches. The Count had planned to elope with Lady Hideko, take her money, and then leave her in an asylum. Things get tricky when unbeknownst to The Count, Sook-Hee begins sleeping with Lady Hideko so that the Lady can practice for married life (as one does) and inadvertently catches feelings for her.Lady Hideko may be marrying The Count, but there is no question about her sexuality. She sleeps with Sook-Hee under the guise of practicing for The Count, but then completely refuses to sleep with him even to consummate their marriage. So what was all that “practice” actually for? Lady Hideko, we know what you are. This is where things start to get really problematic for our lesbians. Even though she won’t sleep with him, Lady Hideko sees The Count as a way out from living with her extremely creepy, sexually abusive uncle. The two elope, cash out Hideko’s inheritance, and trick the people at the asylum into thinking Sook-Hee is Lady Hideko so that Sook-Hee can be committed in her place and Hideko’s uncle will be none the wiser.At first watch, we were worried that this was going in the direction most lesbian films go, with one woman betraying the other and going off with a man in the end, and the other woman suffering or even dying. Luckily for everyone, this is not the case. Sook-Hee manages to flee the asylum and reunites with Lady Hideko who escapes The Count and steals back her fortune by slipping opium into his wine. They get on the ferry to Shanghai and flee together, and the gross perverted uncle and the swindling “Count” are both killed from mercury poisoning. The Handmaiden features a wildly explicit, surprisingly long lesbian sex scene, a happy ending for Lady Hideko and Sook-Hee, and a well-deserved tragic death for the incredibly problematic men! What more could we ask for? At the end of the episode, stick around to hear our original song based on The Handmaiden titled “Fool For Me” written by Leigh Holmes Foster, produced by Ellie Brigida, and performed by Ellie Brigida and Leigh Holmes Foster. Join us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon for mp3 downloads of all our original songs or find us on Bandcamp to purchase songs individually. If you love Lez Hang Out, please show your support by voting for us in the 2023 Queerty Awards #Queerties. We are nominated for Best LGBTQ+ Podcast alongside some incredibly talented people! Vote once a day/device until February 21st.Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
SBG 98: The Princess Bride with Kendall Payne
My name is Iñigo Montoya and I am the King of holding grudges. Prepare to die. This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Brooklyn based queer filmmaker and stand-up comedian Kendall Payne (@kendallxpayne) to talk about why the 1987 classic The Princess Bride Should’ve Been Gay. The movie focuses on the love story between drag queen and OG cottagecore lesbian Princess Buttercup and drag king The Dread Pirate Roberts, ie. the masked masc lesbian Westley. Genuinely, what is queerer than going undercover as a pirate? The Dread Pirate Roberts walked so that the pirates in Our Flag Means Death could run. Buttercup and Westley are in love, but have to keep their relationship in the closet from the completely nonexistent people who would object on the farm. Prince Humpadick, as we will be referring to him the entire time, has to marry Buttercup because he needs to beard up in order to keep his relationship with Dungeon Daddy Tyrone, the six-fingered man, a secret. Luckily Humpadick actually does Buttercup a favor by having a gaggle of gay men kidnap her before she can be forcibly wed into compulsory heterosexuality. They are meant to kill her but she is rescued by her masked masc lover Westley. Buttercup and Westley aren’t the only queer ship in town. We also have Iñigo who is in love with Fezzik (they literally ride off into the sunset on horses together), and Prince Humpadick and Tyrone who spend a little too much time in that sex dungeon to be successfully hiding their relationship. Even the characters who are not in relationships are queer; there is no way anyone would confuse Vizzini for a straight man. The film really leans into the camp of the plot and truly what is gayer than camp? We know one thing for sure, The Princess Bride Should’ve Been Gay. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Want to support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord community, monthly bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, exclusive merch and more? Join us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon.
611: Finding Your HER-d with Jill O'Sullivan
Season 6, Ep. 11
There has never been a better time to find your HER-d! This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Jill O’Sullivan, community manager and event host at HER (@hersocialapp), to talk about queer dating, the importance of queer spaces both online and in person, and how HER helps people find their community. HER is a dating and social community app for queer folks that you most likely have downloaded at some point. If you haven’t checked it out in awhile, you may be surprised to find out that it’s actually not just a dating space. It began as a dating space for queer women and has evolved into a much larger social community for everyone under the queer umbrella. Sure you can still swipe to your heart's content, but once you’re done swiping, take some time to check out the social scene. There are social communities for everything your little queer heart could want, including spaces to talk about media like tv shows, movies, and podcasts. Watching a new show and really excited to talk about it? There’s a space for that! Whether you are looking for romance or friendship, you will be able to find it on the HER app. There are even spaces specifically for the asexual community, which can be challenging to find elsewhere. Additionally, HER hosts plenty of events, including many virtual events, like speed dating, queer book clubs, movie nights, and more! With the decline in lesbian bars and the lingering concerns about the pandemic, it can be difficult to find your tribe in person, especially if you do not live in a major metro area. Whether you find local friends on HER or not, you are bound to find people you vibe with and make lasting connections online. Nowadays everyone knows someone who met their partner or bestie online, heck even Jill met her partner online (before it was cool). If you have been struggling to find queer community in your area, definitely give HER a try. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
SBG 97: Thunder Force
Every queer person has that one childhood friendship that was just a little too intense to be platonic. This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) talk about the 2021 Netflix superhero comedy Thunder Force. This movie stars Melissa McCarthy as Lydia and Octavia Spencer as Emily being so incredibly gay together that even Emily’s grandmother ships them. Lydia and Emily have the best meet-cute. Little Lydia saves the day by knocking out Emily’s bullies and then they bond on the swings. Later on Emily literally makes them rainbow friendship bracelets. This is the type of romantic soulmate level backstory that we wish actual lesbian films would have. Of course, Emily and Lydia end up having an overly intense friend breakup. Then we jump forward in time. Even after 20 years have passed, Lydia has nothing but love for Emily and has been pining after her all this time. She hasn’t even seen Emily for 2 decades and Lydia is still fully secure in the fact that they are best friends. Thunder Force was massively underappreciated and only got a 21% on Rotten Tomatoes, because whenever there are two female leads in a superhero movie there tends to be a disappointing lack of support. However, this movie is 100% worth the watch for Melissa McCarthy’s humor and the most adorable love story between Emily and Lydia. We’re just going to pretend that they get married with the cake topper Emily’s grandma made and they went on to be a family with Emily’s daughter Tracy. Several of the other characters in this movie were super queer too, like Tracy, the Shane wannabe, Laser, the flamboyant guy who kills all his boyfriends after he gets bored with them, The King, and the obvious lesbian, Allie. Throughout the movie it’s like a running joke that Lydia and Emily are gay together. It’s treated like a joke the entire time by everyone except Lydia’s grandma who knows lesbian soulmates when she sees them and eagerly awaits their wedding. We know one thing for sure, Thunder Force Should’ve Been Gay. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
610: Make It Bert So Good with Lea Robinson
Season 6, Ep. 10
Attention FRUITS! Somehow it is 2023, and we still don’t have a renewal announcement for A League of Their Own. We ride at dawn. This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with actor Lea Robinson (@le_robinson_) to talk about their role as Uncle Bertie on Amazon Prime’s series A League of Their Own. If you somehow have not yet had a chance to watch ALOTO, do so right now or be prepared to hear some spoilers from Season 1. There are so many wonderful things about this series, but the hands down absolute best is just how incredibly GAY it is. We are so used to being tossed crumbs of queer content or being reduced to side characters (or suffering some horrible tragic ending if we are the main characters), but ALOTO changes the playing field by making nearly every character queer. You’re likely not only to see yourself represented, but also to see your friends and the lives of other people in the community represented who you may not typically see in your daily life. It doesn’t even matter if you like baseball or not, you will feel seen. This inclusive representation is one of the huge draws that has queer people all around the world resonating with the show. ALOTO does a fantastic job of providing representation both on screen and behind the camera and it really feels like it’s by queer people for queer people. We talked to Lea about their role as Bertie, a trans man who is living his best possible life for the time period. Bertie is so incredibly gender-affirming to see on screen. He is always sharply dressed, holds himself very confidently, and lives life largely unmasked being his authentic self. While Uncle Bertie is estranged from much of his family, he is overall happy with his life and himself as a person. His story shows not only Max that life can work out for trans and nonbinary people, but also the audience. To be able to see Bertie strut by in those fabulous suits that he makes himself is life-affirming for an audience of queer, trans, and nonbinary people who truly understand the courage it takes to be authentically yourself in a world where being yourself is demonized (and in those days, criminalized). He lives proudly and is a beacon of hope for everyone struggling with their sexuality and gender identity. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
Rewind: Lez-ssentials Carol
Happy Holly Gays! As a special gift, we are throwing it back all the way to our very first season! Whether you're a long time listener or new to the show, we hope you will enjoy taking a little trip back through time to the early days of Lez Hang Out. This is the episode that started it all. That's right, this is the episode that features our very first ever original song written by Leigh Holmes Foster! If you've been enjoying all our original songs for our Lez-ssential episodes and our musical The Flame, you will not want to miss the song that started it all, a Carol spoof of My Favorite Things from The Sound of Music. In case it still isn't obvious, this week Leigh and Ellie dive into Carol for this Lez-ssentials episode, a recurring segment on the essential movies and TV shows in the lesbian canon. They're here, they're queer and full of Christmas cheer! They have quite a bit to say about the fate of Carol (Cate Blanchett), Therese (Rooney Mara) and the true star of the movie Abby (Sarah Paulson). Lez-ssentials comes complete with a Carol drinking game because every lesbian movie should be accompanied by heavy drinking. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
SBG 96: The Sound of Music with Kristin Key
“Do, is queer is really queer. Gay, this movie’s really gay. Me, I’m also very gay.” If you sung that to the tune of “Do-Re-Mi”, you’re in the right place. This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with comedian Kristin Key (@thekristinkey) to talk about the 1965 classic, The Sound of Music. If you somehow have not yet seen this movie, we are very sorry about your childhood. On the other hand, if you were obsessed with Maria as a little kid, congratulations! You’re gay now. For every little kid who really liked Maria and watched the movie on a loop (an impressive feat considering it took up 2 whole VHS tapes) or demanded a matching pageboy haircut, we absolutely need to talk about this musical. Aside from Maria’s tomboy appearance, cottagecore tendencies, and desire to bring her acoustic guitar everywhere she goes, perhaps the most stark evidence of her gayness is how much she loves women. Her favorite things include “girls in white dresses” and there’s really no heterosexual explanation for that. She also has not been at the abbey for all that long and somehow she already has all the nuns obsessed with her, which honestly is very valid of them. The Mother Abbess sees Maria getting all her nuns in a tizzy and realizes she needs to send her favorite baby gay “out” into the world. So she sends her to the only other gay she knows, Captain “GAYORG” Von Trapp (sure it’s spelled Georg but come on). The Captain is perhaps the gayest character in the entire movie. He is incredibly sassy, cares way too much about fashion (so much so that he has fabric on standby), and brings home his close personal friend Max to stay with them. Uncle Max? We’re not buying it. That’s a hidden in plain sight secret gay lover. Then we get to the Baroness and even though she should be jealous or wary of Maria, she spends her time flirting with her. Maria seems to enjoy flirting with the Baroness as well, using puppets to delight her. Honestly what is a gayer communication method than using puppets to flirt with your crush? There isn’t one. The Captain and Maria are just never a believable couple. The one time they do kiss they both look incredibly awkward. There is no doubt in our minds that their relationship is just both of them bearding up because it’s the 30’s in Austria and that’s just what gays had to do. We know one thing for sure, The Sound of Music Should’ve Been Gay. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
609: Gay-ncient History with Kirsty Loehr
Season 6, Ep. 9
Are you a card carrying Daughter of Bilitis? This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with writer and English teacher Kirsty Loehr (@KirstyLoehr) to talk about her book, A Short History of Queer Women, which teaches readers about the women throughout history that were very much not “just friends” in a way that is both informative and incredibly funny. Although the historical stories of queer women tend to be depressing, Kirsty imbues her work with humor that really helps to showcase who these women were rather than focusing on the tragedy of their circumstances. If you’ve ever wondered where some of the lesbian stereotypes and jokes we use today originated from, this book is one you need to pick up. Queer women have been around forever. We didn’t just disappear after Sappho and reappear with Ellen, and yet much of our history is ignored or purposefully re-written to be less queer than it was. For example, the Daughters of Bilitis invented the idea of the card-carrying lesbian. Not only did they invent the very first lesbian magazine, but they also had membership cards and a manifesto and everything! They were very dedicated to the cause. Queer people have always been incredibly inventive and creative. Going back all the way to Sappho, she literally invented the guitar pick so that she could cut her nails to pleasure women while maintaining her ability to play the guitar. Ingenious! On behalf of musical queers everywhere, thank you Sappho. If you enjoyed Gentleman Jack, you won’t want to miss us talking to Kirsty about Anne Lister and the way the show captured the experience of being a lesbian in that time period where most people could not even conceive of the idea of two women being anything but friends. We also talk about former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and the incredibly romantic letters she used to exchange with her “friend” Lorena Hickok (whom she nicknamed Hick). They were clearly having a love affair and yet people still deny it to this day. We mourn for the more explicit letters that Hick actually burned rather than choosing to expose Eleanor. Surely if those letters had not been burned, there would be less of a debate around whether they were actually a couple. It is important to look back on the history of queer women and to learn about the sapphics who helped us get to where we are today. They could never have even imagined a world where they could marry and have a family with another woman and to forget their contributions would be a disservice to queer women everywhere. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).
SBG 95: The Princess Switch with Colette McIntyre
It’s time to make the yuletide gay! Come for the Christmas cheer and stay for Vanessa Hudgens putting her whole Vanessa Hudgussy into the tango while another Vanessa Hudgens does backflips into a split while slinking sexily around a bunch of lasers while a third Vanessa Hudgens meets with a convent disciplinary board on behalf of the Vanessa Hudgens that previously kidnapped her. This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with writer and comedian Colette McIntyre (@yungbabayaga) to talk about the Netflix Christmas romcom trilogy The Princess Switch, which we will now forever be referring to as P Swi. If you haven’t seen these movies, buckle up because you are in for a holigay treat. The basic premise of the trilogy is that Vanessa Hudgens is actually 3 identical women, all of whom are gay af and who have to continually swap back and forth pretending to be one another for progressively more ludicrous reasons in fantasy European countries that somehow are within like a 2 hour flight of Chicago. The characters are in theory cousins (although in Stacey’s case, extremely distantly), but that can’t stop us from shipping Vanessa Hudgens with Vanessa Hudgens with Vanessa Hudgens (Don’t lie to us, you know you saw it in that tango lesson scene). The films do us a huge disservice by desperately trying to convince us that the Hudges are all straight, even Fiona who is literally the most flamboyant high femme we have ever seen. Stacey and Edward don’t even sleep together anymore by the second movie, Kevin and Margaret are in a lesbian relationship (You cannot convince us that Kevin isn’t a lesbian stand-in, they got married in a freaking airport!), and Fiona is 100% sleeping with everyone she’s ever met while also being in a relationship with her henchwoman Mindy (they didn’t give Mindy that purple hair for us to just sleep on her being queer as hell). Seriously Fiona probably is broke because she spent all her inheritance money spoiling Mindy while on vacation at a White Lotus. The third movie is arguably the gayest, mostly because it is all Fiona all the time. There are literally 3 entire Fionas at one point and every side plot revolves around Fiona. We learn that she has unresolved mommy issues, we’ll take relatable lesbian problems for 100, and we get a really cute and quintessentially queer found family plot. We will eagerly await The Princess Switch 4: Romancing The Strap and will take to the streets if we do not get at least one additional Vanessa Hudgens (although they really owe us 2 since they did not add a new one into P Swi 3). We know one thing for sure, P Swi Should’ve Been Gay. Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Don’t forget to head over to https://www.magicmind.co/lezhangout and use code LEZHANGOUT20 for 20% off your order (get a subscription within the next 10 days and receive 40% off!). Leigh loves these handy matcha shots for jitterless productivity and we think you will too.