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Let's Talk About Brand with Christine Gritmon
Welcome back to “Let’s Talk About Brand”!
My 2023 was a little bit hectic; I did manage to get some incredible episodes released in autumn 2023…and then I didn't pick it back up. But I’ve finally got my feet under me again. And I'm back with a brand new format—one that I’m debuting today with myself as guest!
On this season’s episodes, my guests will first lead us through their own personal brand development. Then, I’m going to take them through a few of the deeper questions I go through with my clients to get to the heart of their genuine personal brand: their motivations, the value they bring, all that good stuff.
Let's get to it.
- My career journey before I built my own personal brand
- Two life-changing things that happened when I became a full-time journalist
- How I leveraged my personal brand to launch a new career
- How Christine Gritmon Inc. has changed since May 2016
- 2020: amazing; 2021: awful; 2022: employed; 2023: laid off
- Re-embracing my personal brand in 2024
- Why I do what I do
- The deeper needs people who work with me have
- What I truly deliver
- Bringing more personal elements into your personal brand
I’m so excited to start the season. Let's go!
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42:51||Season 5, Ep. 3Brooke Sellas of B Squared Media was on previously talking about the thing that she is known for: customer care. This time we’re digging into how she got known for it, what it really means to her, and her motivations behind it. This is an especially relatable conversation because despite owning a successful marketing agency, appearing on massive stages such as Social Media Marketing World and Inbound, co-hosting a few prominent podcasts, and writing a book on her topic of expertise, Brooke initially struggled to put herself out there in each of those situations. In all cases, it was a nudge from someone else who believed in her that helped Brooke get to those next levels of visibility and thought leadership. As you'll hear today, she is starting to take the reins a little bit more herself, and recognizing after all these years of all of this external validation showing that, yes, actually she is an expert, she does have something to say that people need to hear from her specifically, she's finally recognizing that these people may be onto something. She’s ready to start not just accepting these opportunities, but creating these opportunities and guiding where she wants her personal brand to go. I hope Brooke takes a listen to this episode and says, “Wow, I sound pretty smart.” (Because she does.)Here’s some of what we get into in today’s conversation:How Brooke came to start B Squared MediaHow she got started in social media to begin withExpanding the agency beyond herselfHer professional point of difference“Think Conversation, Not CampaignTM”Why customer conversations are so vitalStepping into her personal brandGetting on stagesCo-hosting podcastsWriting her book, “Conversations That Connect”The future of Brooke’s personal brandBrooke’s true (professional) loveThe need Brooke truly solves for her clientsThe power of goofinessFind Brooke:LinkedInB Squared MediaBook:Conversations That Connect: How to Connect, Converse, and Convert Through Social Media Listening and Social-Led Customer Care❤️Get Started on Your Personal Brand Journey with a sampling of Christine's Personal Branding Questions here: https://www.gritmon.com/talkaboutmybrandSubscribe to the Let's Talk About Brand Newsletter that goes out weekly to ensure you don't miss a beat!2. Let's Talk About Brand with Mario Marchese
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32:25||Season 4, Ep. 11This week I’m excited to talk to fellow brand designer, Liz Mosley!Liz was originally a stationary designer before recognizing her knack for branding creatives. We’re going to talk about how she first became an entrepreneur with her stationary business and how she ultimately transitioned into brand design. She’s going to share with us important considerations when branding for creatives because it is a bit different from other types of personal branding.We are also going to talk about the evolution of Liz's own personal brand, and we’re going to get to the things that she has learned from her own podcast, Building Your Brand.Tune in as we talk about: [00:00] Welcome Liz Mosley![02:26] How did Liz come to focus on branding?[07:09] What has it been like for Liz to brand herself?[09:06] How did you brand Liz Mosley Designs when it was a stationary company[15:30] How it's different working with a fellow creative on the creative elements of their brand? [18:42] What are the elements that creatives need to have in their branding? [23:04] The story of Liz's brand transition[27:30] How has Liz's podcast fit into her brand?[31:20] Connect with Liz MosleyContact Liz MosleyPodcast: Building Your Brand - https://www.lizmosley.net/podcastWebsite: Liz Mosley Design - https://www.lizmosley.net/Social Media at LizMMosleyGet Started on Your Personal Brand Journey with my Prework Workbook here: https://www.gritmon.com/preworkFollow Christine Gritmon on Twitter: @cgritmon and join her each Tuesday for the #ChatAboutBrand Twitter chat.Subscribe to the Let's Talk About Brand Newsletter that goes out every Monday to ensure you don't miss a beat!10. Let’s Talk About a Personal Brand Coaching Session with Sarah Scott
01:00:30||Season 4, Ep. 10While a personal brand is … well…personal. It isn’t something you should work on defining on your own.But have you ever thought about working with personal brand coach? Do you wonder what it would be like? What would you talk about? What conclusions would you walk away with?This episode is going to be a little bit different. In this episode, I’m going to give you a little taste of what I do with clients in my personal branding work. It's not like a whole session, but my brilliant podcast editor, Sarah Scott of Sarah Scott Studios, has said to me, “I think it might be interesting to see you do your thing on an episode.”And so I've turned that right back around on her and said, “how about I do it with you?”She of course agreed! So I'm very excited for today's conversation with Sarah about her personal brand. This is not nearly as thorough or as specific as I would do with an actual client, but I wanted to give you an episode that hopefully you could take some of this discussion back to yourself and use it to figure out some more of your own personal brand. If you want to take a look at the guide I gave Sarah before our session you can download it here: https://www.gritmon.com/preworkTune in as we talk about: [00:03] Welcome! This episode will be a little different![01:31] Introducing the Guest: Sarah Scott[02:49] Sarah's Journey from Healthcare Consulting to Podcast Management[06:41] The Importance of Niching in Business[09:41] How Your Experiences Can Lead to Building Your Personal Branding[12:50] The Power of the Personal Brand Coaching Pre-Work[14:21] Digging into Past Experience for Your Personal Brand [23:30] Blending Skills to Define Your Personal Brand[29:00] Building a Personal Brand[32:33] One way Christine built her brand[33:14] Choosing a platform for your brand[35:49] Benefits of Establishing Your Brand[38:34] The Power of Networking to Build Your Brand[47:30] Defining Your Brand: The Struggle of Self-Representation[51:42] Generous Curiosity: The Key to Successful Branding[58:26] Where to Find Me: Connecting with Sarah Scott[59:18] Wrapping Up: The Journey of Personal BrandingIf you are ready to start taking your personal brand seriously. Start by downloading my Personal Branding Worksheet at https://www.gritmon.com/preworkContact Sarah ScottWebsite: Sarah Scott Studios Linkedin: Sarah ScottShow Linkshttps://www.gritmon.com/ltab/lets-talk-about-personal-band-coaching-session-sarah-scottFollow Christine Gritmon on Twitter: @cgritmon and join her each Tuesday for the #ChatAboutBrand Twitter chat.Subscribe to the Let's Talk About Brand Newsletter that goes out every Monday to ensure you don't miss a beat!