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(REMASTERED) TRUE CRIME: First Family of Fundamentalism - Ch. 3: Sins of the Father #ArrestDavidHyles (Pastoral Abuse / David Hyles / Jack Hyles / Church / Cult / Child Murder / FBCH / IFB )

In the third installment of our First Family of Fundamentalism series, Sadie and Gabriel discuss Jack Hyles' only son David Hyles, the heir apparent to the pastorship of First Baptist Church of Hammond, and how throughout the 1970s and 1980s he proved himself to be unsuited to leadership in any ministry, a liability to his father, an abuser, a rapist, a pedophile, and (allegedly) a murderer. #ArrestDavidHyles

WARNING: This episode contains discussions of rape, coercion, sexual abuse of minors, domestic violence, psychological abuse, child abuse, and child murder.

Note: In this episode, we said that the 5 chapters of Linda Hyles Murphrey's book are available online. Sadly, they are not in fact available online. Sincerest apologies.

Joy Ryder's lawsuit against David Hyles:
https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/b6fbfe77/files/uploaded/RyderJoyComplaint02172020.pdf

Interview with Paula Hyles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Je_QJ-7wY

David Hyles invokes his fifth amendment rights
https://chucklestravels.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/the-business-of-restoration/

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