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BONUS: Jorge Hernandez, Bathroom Brands

Season 16

What makes a bathroom brand truly stand out? Andy Davies talks to Jorge Hernandez, Head of Design at Bathroom Brands, about how the power of differentiating by design drives the look and feel of Crosswater, Burlington, Britton, Clearwater, and the recently added Showerwall. They explore why great design at every price point isn’t just about style, it’s about helping retailers stand apart too.


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    19:18||Season 17
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    31:26||Season 17, Ep. 3
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    13:50||Season 16
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