It Is Complicated


Mental Health is complicated

Season 1, Ep. 15

Mental Health is complicated - we go deep into mental health - why being trans and non-binary complicates discourses around Mental Health. We share a conversation around our different mental health journeys - and where we are now. Is our mental health a logical reaction to the pain and trauma we experience from being not-included in society?


Content warning: contains mentions of self harm, suicide, depression, anxiety and PTSD.

This is an episode to listen to in a good safe place for you.

We both also cry and laugh during the recording. Emotions are fine and complex - go with them - feel them.


Resources if you are impacted by any of the issues we discuss:

Mind -

Samaritans - or call 116 123 in the UK

Trevor Project -

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