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Aaron Roth & Michael Kearns on Ethical Algorithms

Season 1, Ep. 495

In this episode, Aaron Roth and Michael Kearns, both professors of computer science at the University of Pennsylvania, discuss their new book, The Ethical Algorithm (Oxford U. Press 2020). This wide-ranging interview covers issues related to privacy, fairness, and explainable algorithms. The interview has three parts. First, Aaron and Michael explain the goal, process, and limits of differential private data. Second, they discuss various definitions of fairness in algorithmic decision-making and point out that simultaneously maximizing fairness along several dimensions may be impossible to achieve. Finally, they briefly discuss how an inscrutable, “black box” algorithm can be made to produce explainable decisions in specific contexts. Most interestingly, the authors provide several examples of how the process of translating laws into specific directions that machine learning models can follow may demonstrate that our laws are asking for the impossible. For example, it may be impossible to create a credit-underwriting algorithm that is “fair” to both women and black borrowers at the same time despite what the Equal Credit Opportunity Act purports to require. Roth and Kearns are both on Twitter at @Aaroth and @mkearnsupenn, respectively. This episode was hosted by Matthew Bruckner, an associate professor of law at Howard University School of Law. He is on Twitter at @Prof_Bruckner.

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In this episode, Thomas J. Tobin, an author, speaker, and scholar of higher education quality discusses his work on copyright education and distance learning. Among other things, he discusses how became interested in distance learning, how it lead to an interest in copyright policy and education, and the different ways in which he has advanced that conversation. He also describes the process of creating his comic book "The Copyright Ninja," and how it is used by copyright educators. Tobin is on Twitter at @ThomasJTobin. He has also shared the following links:UW-Madison Center for Teaching, Learning, & Mentoring:https://ctlm.wisc.edu/The Pre-Raphaelite Critic:https://mathcs.duq.edu/~tobin/PR_Critic/"Copyright for Distance Educators" (2000), Distance Learning Administration conference:http://mathcs.duq.edu/~tobin/cv/essay.dla.02.ppt"Copyright for Distance Education" (2001),Intellectual Property and Digital Information in Higher Education: Problems and Solutions. Temple University:http://mathcs.duq.edu/~tobin/cv/essay.temple.01.rtfCopyrightx:https://cyber.harvard.edu/teaching/copyrightx"Training Your Faculty about Copyright when the Lawyer Isn't Looking" (2014),Online Journal of Distance Learning Administration:https://www.westga.edu/~distance/ojdla/summer172/tobin172.htmlKneece, M. (2015).The Art of Comic Book Writing:https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/220559/the-art-of-comic-book-writing-by-mark-kneece/Michael Watson, comic-book artist:https://www.facebook.com/5KWATTSThe Copyright Ninja(2017):https://squareup.com/store/thomasjtobin(US),http://mathcs.duq.edu/~tobin/cv/copyright.ninja.canada.html(Canada)This episode was hosted byBrian L. Frye, Spears-Gilbert Professor of Law at the University of Kentucky College of Law. Frye is on Twitter at@brianlfrye.