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#33. IC Book Club: Accidentally on Purpose by Kristin Kish (Chapters 5 - 8)

Season 1, Ep. 33

Hi innercallers! In this episode, Dr. Victoria and producers Carlisle, and Western return for the second installment of our Book Club series, diving into Chapters 5–8 of Accidentally on Purpose by Kristen Kish.


We explore Kristen’s turbulent "messy middle", that intense period of young adulthood where ambition often outpaces experience. We discuss her rapid rise to executive chef, the ego and intensity that fueled her early career, and the necessary "humbling" that occurred when it all came crashing down.


This conversation is all about the power of support systems. We reflect on Kristen’s incredible parents, the life-changing magic of finding a "work bestie," and the unique dynamic of the "Heartbreak Hotel" :).


Join us as we break down the journey from trying to "prove yourself" to finding your voice.


  • 00:00:00 - Intro: Book Club Round 2 (Chapters 5-8)
  • 00:01:00 - Recap: From Culinary School to Executive Chef
  • 00:03:30 - Obsessed with Status: The Drive for Upward Mobility
  • 00:04:45 - Kitchen Culture: "Screaming Chefs" & Intensity
  • 00:07:45 - Why Her First Executive Chef Job Failed
  • 00:09:15 - The "Humbling": Substance Use & Moving Home
  • 00:10:45 - Moving to Boston & Finding a "Work Bestie"
  • 00:13:00 - Mentorship at Stir: A Woman-Led Kitchen
  • 00:16:15 - Dating Scott & Learning What Love Is
  • 00:18:30 - The 2AM Phone Call: A Story of Parental Support
  • 00:21:00 - Living in the "Heartbreak Hotel"
  • 00:22:15 - Outro: Looking Ahead to the Top Chef Era


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