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In Lieu of Fun

Unpacking the Debate With Tyler McBrien

Season 4, Ep. 3

Wherein I am joined by the estimable Tyler McBrien--aka Spicy Tyler--to talk about the Harris-Trump debate from the previous evening. We will also, of course, discuss spices.

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