<h4><em>Transcripts can be found via our website, humanrestorationproject.org.</em></h4><p><br></p><p>Today we're joined by Dr. Tanu Biswas and Dr. John Wall. Dr. Biswas is a doctorate of pedagogy who focuses her research on children's civil disobedience for climate justice, and showcasing the richness that children and childhood have to offer adults. Dr. Wall is a theoretical ethicist who focuses on the idea of a moral life centered on language, power, culture, and childhood. His upcoming book, <em>Give Children the Vote: How to Democratize Democracy</em> argues for voting rights regardless of age.</p><p><br></p><p>Our conversation centers on combatting adultism, or the power adults have over children and the discrimination of young people, which is more than present in society but in my opinion, amplified in the classroom. We talk about what adultism and childism mean, how to promote democracy, and the importance of civil disobedience.</p><p><br></p><h3>GUESTS</h3><p><strong>Dr. Tanu Biswas</strong>, doctorate of pedagogy and researcher focused on civil disobedience, children, and the intersection of climate justice</p><p><strong>Dr. John Wall</strong>, theoretical ethicist centered on language, power, culture, and childhood</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://childism.camden.rutgers.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Childism Institute (Rutgers)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.childrenvoting.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Children's Voting Colloquium</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/397368708048652/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Upcoming Event!: Exploring Children Across Disciplines</a> by  (Jan 22, 2021 @ 8AM ET)</li><li><a href="https://www.theccysc.com/post/children-s-civil-disobedience-in-the-minority-world-and-its-potential-for-re-imagining-the-education" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Children’s Civil Disobedience in the Minority World &amp; its Potential for Re-imagining the Educational by Tanu Biswas</a></li><li><a href="https://johnwall.camden.rutgers.edu/files/Wall-Right-to-Vote-CYE-2014.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Children Should Have the Right to Vote: An Argument for Proxy-Claim Suffrage by John Wall</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/34-restoring-humanity-to-education-critical-pedagogy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">34: Restoring Humanity to Education (Critical Pedagogy)</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

85: Combatting Adultism to Create a Flourishing Democracy w/ Dr. Tanu Biswas & Dr. John Wall

<h4><em>Transcripts can be found via our website, humanrestorationproject.org.</em></h4><p><br></p><p>Today we are joined by Dr. Jennifer Berkshire and Dr. Jack Schneider. Dr. Berkshire is a journalist and educator who focuses on podcasting and labor organizing at Boston College and Umass Amherst respectively, and Dr. Schneider is an education historian focused on reform and school accountability. Jennifer and Jack co-host the wonderful Have You Heard Podcast, which is focused on hot button issues in educational policy and current events, and both Chris and I highly recommend checking it out if you aren’t listening already.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Our discussion today is going to cover a lot of ground but center on education reform, innovation, labor rights, unions, and change. There’s an odd dichotomy between progressive education and the assault on public education: a cognitive dissonance between the necessity for systemic reform while ensuring a free and accessible public education for the future and recognizing the need for organized labor as a path to a strong working class, that teacher unions are among the largest and most powerful in the country. Yet, there is a narrative - real or not - that unions are resistant to the change that many progressive educators want, and more recently, the notion that they have become <strong>the </strong>major roadblock to school reopenings in 2020.</p><p><br></p><h3>GUESTS</h3><p><strong>Dr. Jennifer Berkshire</strong>, journalist and educator focused on podcasting and labor organizing at Boston College &amp; UMass Amherst</p><p><strong>Dr. Jack Schneider</strong>, education historian centered on reform and school accountability</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://thenewpress.com/books/wolf-schoolhouse-door" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door</a> by Dr. Berkshire &amp; Dr. Schneider</li><li><a href="https://writing.humanrestorationproject.org/a-wolf-at-the-schoolhouse-door-the-unmaking-of-public-education/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Review: A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door</a> by Nick Covington</li><li><a href="https://haveyouheardblog.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Have You Heard Blog/Podcast</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/pandemic-pods-school-choice-and-combating-inequity" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">80: Pandemic Pods, School Choice, and Combating Inequity w/ Dr. Jon Hale</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvYWFlYTRlNjktYWY1MS00OTVlLWFmYzktYTk3NjAxNDY5MjJiLzkzZTI3MWJmLTU3ZGEtNDUyNi05MzdhLWFiMDQwMDI0MzczMi8xNWI2OWRhMS0yMDAwLTRmMzUtYTNlYy1hYjA0MDAyNDM3NGYvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/YzAyOGEyOGUtNDRiNS00NTdmLTk2ZmUtYWJhNTAxMzQ0YjJk?hl=en&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjg6_bJmurtAhUrwlkKHeJ1Ay0QjrkEegQICRAF&amp;ep=6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Podcast Will Kill You: COVID-19 Chapter 10: Schools</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjcwNjA3MjEyL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvOTMxNjYyNTU5?hl=en&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjg6_bJmurtAhUrwlkKHeJ1Ay0QjrkEegQICRAI&amp;ep=6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This is Hell!: 1263: The end of public school / Jack Schneider + Jennifer Berkshire</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

84: In Defense of Public Education w/ Dr. Jennifer Berkshire & Dr. Jack Schneider

<h4><em>Transcripts can be found via our website, humanrestorationproject.org.</em></h4><p><br></p><p>Today we are joined by Dr. Susan Blum, Dr. Blum is a professor of anthropology at the University of Notre Dame, and the author of many works and articles, including her recently released: Ungrading: Why Rating Students Undermines Learning (and What to Do Instead), which features fifteen different educators, such as Arthur Chiaravalli, Jesse Stommel, Aflie Kohn, and Laura Gibbs, speaking on their ideas and implementation of the practice. And as an interesting side note, more than half of the educators in the book have appeared on our podcast! </p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation we'll be talking about ungrading, framed on the ideas found in the book - the “how” of the practice, and particularly how ungrading fits within COVID-19 and promoting equity as a whole.</p><p><br></p><h3>GUESTS</h3><p><strong>Dr. Susan Blum</strong>, professor of anthropology at the University of Notre Dame and active author, with a recent focus on ungrading.</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://ungrading.weebly.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ungrading Book Club</a> (assembled by David Buck)</li><li><a href="https://wvupressonline.com/node/844" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">West Virginia University Press: Ungrading</a>, edited by Dr. Susan Blum</li><li><a href="https://www.humanrestorationproject.org/materials" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Human Restoration Project Ungrading Handbook</a></li><li><a href="restorehumanity.school" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Human Restoration Project Ungrading Course</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/a-way-to-ungrade-floop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">78: A Way to Ungrade, Floop w/ Christine Witcher</a></li><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/the-research-on-assessment" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">74: The Research on Assessment w/ Dr. Astrid Poorthuis</a></li><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/54-making-the-switch-to-ungrading" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">54: Making the Switch to Ungrading feat. Abigail French, Dr. Susan Blum, and Dr. Laura Gibbs</a></li><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/47-redefining-assessment-by-implementing-gradeless-learning" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">47: Redefining Assessment by Implementing Gradeless Learning feat. Jeffery Frieden, Aaron Blackwelder, &amp; Nick Covington</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

83: Why Rating Students Undermines Learning w/ Dr. Susan Blum

<h4><em>Transcripts can be found via our website, humanrestorationproject.org.</em></h4><p><br></p><p>Our conversation today will center on teaching organization and collective activism. Essentially, we find ourselves at an important crossroads, as the administration shifts to new policies - teachers will be at the whim of new federal (and likely, state) policies that will have massive ramifications on classrooms, especially during COVID-19. And I hope out of this conversation, we’ll be able to address - what should I be concerned about? What problems may exist? And then, okay...what can I do to actually mitigate these problems and demand an equitable education system?</p><p><br></p><h3>GUESTS</h3><p><strong>Dr. Kevin Gannon</strong>, the Director of the Center for Excellence in Teaching and Learning and a Professor of History at Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, and author of <em>Radical Hope: A Teaching Manifesto. </em>Further, Gannon actively writes and teaches on the science of learning, racism and race in education, and building inclusivity online and offline. You can learn more on his website, TheTattooedProf.com and on Twitter @TheTattooedProf.</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://thenewpress.com/books/wolf-schoolhouse-door" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door by Jack Schneider and Jennifer Berkshire</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/pedagogy-of-hope-9781472533401/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pedagogy of Hope by Paulo Freire</a></li><li><a href="https://wvupressonline.com/node/823" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Radical Hope by Kevin Gannon</a></li><li><a href="https://writing.humanrestorationproject.org/june-can-2020-be-the-year-of-radical-hope/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HRP Book Review: Radical Hope</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radical-hope-for-online-teaching-with-kevin-gannon/id1445933224?i=1000479353211" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ThinkUDL with Kevin Gannon: Radical Hope for Online Teaching</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

82: Build a New Future: Teaching Action and Coalition Building w/ Dr. Kevin Gannon

<p>This is a recording of our Teacher Powered Schools Virtual Conference 2020 presentation: Sharing Power with Students: Reframing Systems Toward a Liberatory Pedagogy. This session dives into why reform doesn't work, how teachers can use collective action to change systems, and what really, is the point of us working against inhumane structures if not much is actually changing?</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://writing.humanrestorationproject.org/one-teacher-cant-save-the-world/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">One Teacher Can't Save the World by Nick Covington and Chris McNutt</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://shows.acast.com/humrespro/episodes/introduction-human-restoration-project" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Introduction: Human Restoration Project</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

81: One Teacher Can't Save the World

<p>Today, Chris and I (Nick) are joined by John Hale, whose biography you will hear at the beginning of the interview. John was recently the guest of a Soho Forum debate on the topic of pandemic pods, which you heard excerpts of at the beginning of this episode and confined in its entirety on YouTube.</p><p><br></p><p>Since the Human Restoration Project has primarily been focused on pedagogy and changing the structures of school, I wanted to have John on to talk more about the history and ramifications of education policy and help us unpack what's really going on in our current conversations about pandemic pods, voucher programs and the recently announced Bezos Academy. How can we simultaneously acknowledge that schools need to change while being critical advocates for the need for public institutions and employee unions? How have market oriented takes on so-called school choice actually subverted the original intent of independent and charter schools? It's a really interesting conversation and it was great to talk to John. I'm sure we'll have him on again to talk education policy, history and organization in the future.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>GUESTS</strong></h3><p><strong>Dr. Joe Hale</strong>, professor of educational policy, organization, and leadership at the University of Illinois, Urban-Champaign, and author of the forthcoming book, "The Choice We Face" (working title)</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>RESOURCES</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/business/jeff-bezos-tuition-free-preschool-bezos-academy/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Bezos is opening a tuition-free preschool for underserved children (CNN)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jonathankozol.com/savage-inequalities" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Savage Inequalities by Jonathan Kozol</a></li><li><a href="https://deborahmeier.com/2010/03/17/small-schools-and-choice-revisited/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Small Schools and Choice&nbsp;Revisited by Deborah Meier</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3><strong>FURTHER LISTENING</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLaCDiubjws&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;fbclid=IwAR1koZAQR468SFfNE5HnWhxrIYUjkcGckiy6PW5SomhmNcZVvZRc-CaEwsw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Are ‘Pandemic Pods’ a Symptom of the Public School Monopoly? A Soho Forum Debate (YouTube)</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

80: Pandemic Pods, School Choice, and Combating Inequity w/ Dr. Jon Hale

<p>Today we're joined by Dr. Erin Lynn Raab. Erin is the Co-founder of REENVISION<strong><em>ED</em></strong>, a movement to redefine the purpose of school. &nbsp; REENVISION<strong><em>ED</em></strong> aims to change the conversation of school away from standards, norms, and improving the status quo, toward human flourishing, community, democracy, and collective liberation. Erin and her co-founder, Nicole Hensel, both graduates of the Stanford Graduate School of Education, aim to collect 10,000 stories of students, teachers, and community members to develop a shared vision of what school could, and should be. </p><p><br></p><p>The organization works with schools and individuals to catalyze new conversations and create new visions.&nbsp; They provide a tried and true process for opening space for truly eye-opening conversations between young people, educators, and other adults in their community about what we all really want out of our education system and for our live. You can read some of these interviews at <a href="http://www.reenvisioned.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">REENVISIONED.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>In our conversation together, Erin talks about systems-based thinking and transforming the system, rather than upholding the status quo. It's a deep, complex discussion centering on history, psychology, and more. I hope you enjoy!</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>GUESTS</strong></h3><p><strong>Dr. Erin Lynn Raab</strong>, who earned her Ph.D. in Education from Stanford University, where her scholarship pertained to the question of how we can transform education systems so they foster individual flourishing and thriving democracy, and is the co-founder of REENVISION<strong><em>ED</em></strong>.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>RESOURCES</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.reenvisioned.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">REENVISIONED</a>: Hundreds of interviews on the purpose of school, with free resources and activities to help facilitate these conversations by yourself or with classes.</li><li>“<a href="https://www.academia.edu/35043849/Why_School_A_Systems_Perspective_on_Creating_Schooling_for_Flourishing_Individuals_and_a_Thriving_Democratic_Society" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why School?</a>": A Systems Perspective on Creating Schooling for Individual Flourishing and a Thriving Democratic Society” - Dr. Raab’s Ph.D. Dissertation</li><li><a href="https://www.versobooks.com/books/2426-the-end-of-policing" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The End of Policing</a> by Alex Vitale (referenced)</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Shorter, broad audience pieces by Erin:</p><ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/@erinraab/what-might-it-look-like-to-powerfully-engage-a-school-community-around-beautiful-questions-24512ad743d9?source=---------8----------------------------" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">If We Want a More Just, Equitable Society We Have to Re-envision School. Here’s how to start.&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/@erinraab/designing-schools-for-human-flourishing-a-thriving-democracy-7db8a1eecc3b" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Designing School for Human Flourishing &amp; Thriving Democracy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/reenvisioned/f-efficiency-in-education-organize-schooling-for-possibility-70c6cbc31bc0?source=---------27----------------------------" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Four Purposes of Schooling</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3><strong>FURTHER LISTENING</strong></h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.humanrestorationproject.org/things-fall-apart/thegoodlife" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">43: The Good Life feat. Steven Gumbay, REENVISIONED, The Future Project, Anne Connolly, Richard Loeper-Viti, &amp; Gamal Sherif</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

79: Reimagine the System w/ REENVISIONED (Dr. Erin Raab)

<p>Today we're talking about ungrading with the EdTech tool, Floop, short for feedback loop,  found over at <a href="http://FloopEdu.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FloopEdu.com</a>. Now, we don't normally talk about specific tools and strategies at HRP - we get into the theory and pedagogy of progressive systems...but the most common question we're asked is: okay well, is it even possible to do any of these things? It seems like a ton of work and it'll be overwhelming, and everyone is against me!</p><p><br></p><p>Well, one potential solution is Floop! In summary, Floop allows you to easily provide feedback to your students. You create dropboxes on the platform, students upload their assignments, and then you are given audio and text-based tools to comment on what they've done. You can assign feedback visually, through comment banks, see growth over past revisions, and you can see if students have read what you've said. I personally love that Floop is committed to ungrading - and you don't need to enter in any grade whatsoever. The company actively promote practices to distance ourselves from grades altogether.</p><p><br></p><p>I, myself, started using Floop this year and I'm excited to share it. I think it's a great example of an ed tech company using their tools for <em>actual</em> education as opposed to maintaining the status quo, and it's affordable and ethical as you'll soon find out.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, this episode is not sponsored in any way, I'm just excited about it. <strong>Christine offered our listeners 20% off their first year - putting the platform at roughly $67. Just use code "RESTORE20" before October 31st, 2020.</strong></p><p><br></p><h3>GUESTS</h3><p><strong>Christine Witcher, </strong>a current middle school STEM educator and co-founder of Floop, founded in 2017.</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02602938.2020.1787331?journalCode=caeh20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Study: LMS, Grading, and Comments</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3rk55MjFs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PD on Feedback-Driven Learning</a></li><li><a href="https://mailchi.mp/57cc83b498cd/floop-curriculum" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Floop Curriculum</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.teachbetter.com/podcast/christinewitcher/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Teach Better Podcast: 94: A Two-Way Conversation – Christine Witcher chats with us about the importance of feedback, and how to make sure our students are emotionally ready for it, and prepared to learn from it.&nbsp;</a></li></ul><p><br></p>

78: A Way to Ungrade, Floop w/ Christine Witcher

<p>Today we are joined by Evan Whitehead, a veteran educator who is the director of special services at a K-8 school in Illinois. Evan has served in a variety of roles, from crisis and behavior interventionist to Latino parent outreach coordinator to Title 1 director. Further, Evan actively presents on reaching at-risk youth, leadership, and self-care for everyone in education, and is a national consultant for the Aha! Process.</p><p><br></p><p>We discuss how educators can best prepare for self-care, especially now within remote and hybrid contexts. Further, we focus on conversation on two themes: 1) how can we build systems (e.g. breaks, SEL check-ins) to ensure teachers are supported by administration, and 2) how can we ensure that toxic positivity doesn’t ignore equity and social justice in the “name of” self-care?</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://sonix.ai/r/TsC67mBpyCayHt3mExB7egmi/share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transcript available here.</a></p><p><br></p><h3>GUESTS</h3><p><strong>Evan Whitehead, </strong>a leader in social-emotional learning, leadership, and self-care, and director of special services at a K-8 school.</p><p><br></p><h3>RESOURCES</h3><ul><li><a href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/self_compassion_for_teachers" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How Self-Compassion Can Help Prevent Teacher Burnout</a></li><li><a href="https://www.edsurge.com/news/2019-05-15-dena-simmons-without-context-social-emotional-learning-can-backfire" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dena Simmons: Without Context, Social-Emotional Learning Can Backfire</a></li></ul><p><br></p><h3>FURTHER LISTENING</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZC0Gy74vWE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Innovator’s Mindset: Balance, Boundaries, and Breaks (YouTube)</a></li></ul>

77: Normalizing Teacher Self-Care (in a Pandemic) w/ Evan Whitehead

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