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Dutch growers on BCPs, SPS + how 'experiences' could transform garden centres and shows

Season 6, Ep. 5

With HortWeek senior reporter Rachael Forsyth fresh from the GrootGroenPlus trade show, we hear how European growers are tackling the challenge of imports/ exports with the UK - with producers saying they would be "delighted" to see the SPS agreement come into force.


HortWeek editor Matthew Appleby and Rachael talk about:


  • Inspection regimes and paperwork both sides of the border, and how it is affecting European traders
  • The latest round of delays and reports of damaged plants at BCP Sevington
  • How 'experiences' could transform the fortunes of garden centres and horticulture shows
  • How new analysis of horticulture company results is showing who is doing well

Do check out our huge archive of HortWeek Podcast interviews with an unrivalled selection of prominent and fascinating figures from all corners of the horticulture sector.

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