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The Forgotten Contributions of the United States in WWI with Madeleine Johnson
In this engaging episode of History Rage, our hosts Paul and Kyle are joined by the passionate and knowledgeable guest, Madeleine Johnson, who's about to unleash her fiery rage on a largely overlooked topic— the United States' significant but often underestimated role in World War I. Prepare to embark on a historical journey as we explore Madeleine's compelling perspective on the American contribution to the Great War. Get ready to unravel the complexities and controversies surrounding this pivotal chapter in history as we discuss the Battle of Belleau Wood, the overall impact of U.S. involvement, and the reasons behind the tendency to downplay World War I in American historical memory.
Show Notes
- Madeleine Johnson's Passionate Introduction: Madeleine Johnson, an expert on World War I history, sets the stage for a heated discussion about the often underappreciated American contribution to the Great War.
- Challenges Faced by the U.S.: The hosts and Madeleine delve into the challenges the U.S. faced as it entered World War I and the lack of an established army.
- French and British Expectations: The conversation explores the expectations of the French and British when the U.S. troops arrived in France.
- The Battle of Belleau Wood: A discussion about the significance of the Battle of Belleau Wood, the founding myth of the U.S. Marines, and the contrasting reactions of the French and British.
- U.S. Troops on the Western Front: How the American troops started making a difference on the Western Front and their impact on the Germans.
- Logistical Feat: The logistical challenges involved in sending American troops to the front lines in Europe.
- The Battle of the Meuse-Argonne: Insight into the Battle of the Meuse-Argonne, the largest ever battle in American history, and the notable figures involved.
- Overall Impact: Madeleine discusses the overall impact of American involvement in World War I, emphasizing the massive contributions of the U.S. in terms of men and materials.
- Challenges in Remembering World War I: The hosts and Madeleine explore the reasons why World War I is often downplayed and forgotten in American historical memory.
- The Easier Narrative of World War II: A comparison of the more straightforward narrative of World War II and the reasons it tends to overshadow the complexities of World War I.
- Conclusion: Madeleine reflects on the bitterness and depression that followed World War I and the legacy it left in the U.S.
- African American Contribution: A teaser for an upcoming episode with Chad Williams, focusing on the African American contribution to World War I.
- Final Thoughts: Madeleine wraps up her passionate discussion, and the hosts encourage listeners to engage with the show and provide reviews.
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43:07|In this lively episode of History Rage Live, host Paul Bavill welcomes back the legendary historian, author, and podcaster James Holland. Known for his compelling narratives and deep dives into World War II history, Holland joins the podcast to discuss the often misunderstood Italian Campaign of the Second World War. With a focus on debunking myths and setting the record straight, Holland sheds light on the strategic importance and challenges of the Italian front.Episode Highlights:Mark Clark's Misunderstood Legacy: James Holland passionately defends General Mark Clark, dispelling myths about his role in the Italian Campaign and addressing misconceptions about his decisions and actions.The Italian Campaign's Strategic Importance: Explore why the Italian front was crucial for the Allies, focusing on its role in diverting German forces and the significance of capturing the Foggia airfields.The Battle of Monte Cassino: Delve into the infamous battle, understanding its strategic complexities and the mountainous terrain that made it a formidable challenge for Allied forces.Stalin and the Italian Front: Discover how the Soviet Union viewed the Italian Campaign and their interest in expanding influence in post-war Italy.The Challenges of Amphibious Operations: Learn about the logistical constraints faced by the Allies, including the shortage of landing craft and the impact on strategic decisions.Evolution of Historical Perspectives: Holland reflects on how his understanding of the Italian Campaign has evolved over two decades, providing insights into the complexities of wartime strategy and the broader context of World War II.Join us as we unravel the layers of historical distortion and gain a clearer understanding of the Italian Campaign's pivotal role in World War II. James Holland's insights promise to challenge long-held beliefs and illuminate the nuanced realities of this often-overlooked theatre of war.Connect with James Holland:- Follow James on Twitter: @James1940Support the Show:If you’re fired up by this episode, consider joining the 'Angry Mob' on Patreon at patreon.com/historyrage for exclusive content, early access, and the iconic History Rage mug.James’s Latest Book: Cassino '44: Five Months of Hell in ItalyFollow the Rage:Twitter: @HistoryRageFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/HistoryRageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/historyrage/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/historyrage.bsky.socialFrom all of us at History Rage, stay curious, stay passionate, and most importantly, stay angry!2. Model Occupation Myth: The Harsh Reality of the Channel Islands with Nick Le Huray
50:34||Season 15, Ep. 2In this fiery episode of History Rage, host Paul Bavill welcomes back historian and podcaster Nick Le Huray to dismantle the myth of the "model occupation" of the Channel Islands during World War II. Together, they delve into the harsh realities faced by the islanders under German occupation, a far cry from the benign narrative often portrayed.The Myth of the Model Occupation:- Nick passionately debunks the notion that the German occupation of the Channel Islands was a "model" occupation, revealing the severe hardships and brutal treatment endured by the islanders.- Explore the evidence that contradicts the idea that the Germans behaved themselves on British soil, including deportations, hostages, and severe restrictions on daily life.Life Under Occupation:- Discover the day-to-day struggles of the islanders, from food shortages and confiscated property to the constant threat of imprisonment and deportation.- Hear about the acts of defiance and resistance, including illicit newspapers and sabotage, that challenged the German occupiers despite the immense risks involved.Uncovering the Truth:- Nick shares his extensive research from unpublished diaries, family stories, and newly available archives that paint a vivid picture of the true nature of the occupation.- Learn about the impact of Nazi racial policies on the islanders, including the deportation of Jews and the horrific treatment of slave workers.The Legacy of Resistance:- Understand the long-lasting consequences for those accused of collaboration and the efforts to mitigate German demands by the local civilian government.- Nick highlights the importance of challenging the simplistic narratives and recognising the complex and often brutal reality of the occupation.Prepare to have your perceptions shattered as Nick Le Huray brings to light the untold stories of defiance and suffering during the German occupation of the Channel Islands. For more on this topic, check out Nick's blog at islandfortress.com and his podcast, Islands at War, available on all major platforms.Follow Nick on Twitter @nicklehSupport History Rage on Patreon at patreon.com/historyrage for exclusive content and the coveted History Rage mug.Follow History Rage on Social Media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HistoryRageTwitter: https://twitter.com/HistoryRageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/historyrage/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/historyrage.bsky.socialStay informed, stay impassioned, and let the rage for historical truth burn on!1. The Real Anne of Cleves: Beyond the Flanders Mare with Heather Darsie
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01:56||Season 15, Ep. 0Welcome to Series 15 of History Rage! A massive thank you to everyone who has supported us on this journey—your encouragement means the world. Here's a sneak peek at the fiery topics we'll be tackling over the next ten weeks. Get ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about history.Upcoming Rages:Heather Darsie takes on Anne of Cleves and the 'Flanders Mare' mythNick Le Huray gets his rage on at the 'Model Occupation' of the Channel; IslandsMuseum Curator Liam Gauci of the Malta Maritime Museum rages that Corsairs and Pirates are very differentJohanna Strong is sick to death of the Bloody Mary tagTobias Capwell rages that armour is for fighting in, of course you can move in itSteve Tibble argues about the realities of the Crusades and their missionAuthor Ron Drabkin takes a new look at the Pearl Harbour blame game and who was at faultShalina Patel shouts that there are many more suffrage campaigners than the PankhurstsNicola Clark rages that Anne Boleyn did not withhold sex to become QueenJames Crossland explores the farce that is the Lockhart plot and that British Intelligence is not infallibleThe ragefires will burn again with general release on 16th December. See you then!Stay Connected:Follow us on Twitter: @HistoryRageJoin the conversation with Paul Bavill: @PaulBavillShare your thoughts using the hashtag #HistoryRageSupport History Rage on Patreon for early episode access, the chance to submit questions to guests, prize draws, and the exclusive History Rage mug at www.patreon.com/historyrage.To catch up on all the rage from bygone times, visit our website www.historyrage.comIf you want to get in touch with History Rage, email historyragepod@gmail.comStay Angry, Stay Informed - History Rage10. The Sailors’ Stories: The Navy's Role in Normandy with Nick Hewitt
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40:57||Season 14, Ep. 7In this high-flying episode of History Rage, host Paul Bavill is joined by Jane Gulliford Lowes, historian, author, and co-host of the "Never Mind the Dambusters" podcast, to dismantle the myth that the Lancaster bomber single-handedly won World War II. Jane takes us on a turbulent journey through the skies of the Second World War, passionately advocating for the often-overlooked Handley Page Halifax and other unsung aircraft of RAF Bomber Command. Prepare for a deep dive into the complex and multifaceted history of these wartime workhorses and get ready to challenge the narrow narratives perpetuated by popular media and historical oversights.Episode Highlights:- Jane Gulliford Lowes' Introduction: Jane shares her journey from a much-loathed legal career to becoming a historian and aviation enthusiast, driven by a childhood fascination with the Falklands War and a personal connection to RAF Bomber Command through her great uncle Jack Clyde.- The Lancaster Myth: Jane passionately debunks the notion that the Lancaster bomber won the war on its own, criticising the "Lancastrification" of World War II history and highlighting the vital roles played by other aircraft, particularly the Halifax.- The Halifax's Contributions: From strategic bombing to mine-laying operations, SOE missions, and supporting airborne operations, Jane details the extensive and varied contributions of the Halifax, arguing for its rightful place in the annals of aviation history.- Challenges and Improvements: Jane discusses the early issues faced by the Halifax, its subsequent improvements, and how it evolved to become a formidable aircraft by the time of the Mark III, which rivalled the Lancaster in terms of performance.- The Overlooked Heroes: Jane calls for a broader recognition of all the aircraft that contributed to the war effort, including the Hamdens, Stirlings, Wellingtons, and Blenheims, urging listeners to appreciate the full spectrum of Bomber Command.Connect with Jane Gulliford Lowes:- Grab a copy of Jane's book "Above Us the Stars" from The History Rage Bookshop- Follow Jane on Instagram @justcuriousjane and Twitter @LydiaJane13Support the Show:If you’re fired up by this episode, consider joining the 'Angry Mob' on Patreon at patreon.com/historyrage for exclusive content, early access, and the iconic History Rage mug.Follow the Rage:- Twitter: @HistoryRage- Paul on Twitter: @PaulBavillStay Angry, Stay Informed - History Rage6. Jane Seymour - Beyond the Boring Queen with Elizabeth Norton
40:27||Season 14, Ep. 6Step into the tumultuous world of Henry VIII's court as Paul is joined by historian and author Dr. Elizabeth Norton, who is here to set the record straight on one of history's most misunderstood queens: Jane Seymour. Elizabeth, renowned for her extensive work on Tudor women, passionately argues against the common perception of Jane as a dull, submissive figure and reveals the true complexity and significance of her life.Introducing Dr. Elizabeth Norton:- Elizabeth shares her background in Tudor history and her latest projects, including a groundbreaking study on Jane Seymour and a book on reigning queens.Jane Seymour: More Than Just Henry VIII's Wife:- Elizabeth debunks the myth of Jane Seymour as merely the mother of Henry's son, highlighting her overlooked qualities and achievements.Early Life and Upbringing:- Delve into Jane's enigmatic early years, her family background, and the factors that shaped her into a formidable figure at court.Jane's Rise to Power:- Explore Jane's strategic ascent to queenship, her court connections, and the political manoeuvres that positioned her beside Henry VIII.Challenging the Stereotypes:- Elizabeth counters the portrayal of Jane as a gentle, submissive queen, presenting evidence of her intelligence, ambition, and influence.Jane's Political and Personal Influence:- Uncover Jane's role in the dissolution of the monasteries and her daring interventions in Henry's policies, which reveal a more assertive and politically savvy queen.Jane's Relationships with Her Stepchildren:- Learn about Jane's nurturing relationships with Mary and Elizabeth, and her significant impact on their lives during her queenship.Legacy and Misconceptions:- Elizabeth discusses why Jane Seymour's legacy is often overshadowed and calls for a re-evaluation of her contributions and significance in Tudor history.Conclusion:See Jane Seymour in a new light, recognising her as a remarkable and influential figure in her own rightFor a deeper dive into Jane Seymour's life, grab a copy of Elizabeth's book Jane Seymour, Henry VIII's True Love from the History Rage Bookshop and follow Elizabeth on Twitter @ENortonHistory.Share your thoughts on Twitter @HistoryRage using the hashtag #HistoryRage. Join our 'Angry Mob' on Patreon for exclusive perks, including early episode access and the esteemed History Rage mug, at patreon.com/historyrage.Follow History Rage on Social MediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/HistoryRageTwitter: https://twitter.com/HistoryRageInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/historyrage/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/historyrage.bsky.socialStay Angry, Stay Informed