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264. Stop pitting Katherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn as enemies with Kate McCaffrey - Katherine of Aragon Festival Special 2
Stop pitting Tudor queens against each other and confront the real villain.
Two of the most famous women in Tudor history are still framed as enemies—but what if that story is fundamentally wrong?
In this History Rage festival special for the Katherine of Aragon Festival, castle historian and Assistant Curator of Hever Castle, Kate McCaffrey, dismantles the deeply entrenched myth that Katherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn were bitter rivals defined by loyalty versus seduction. Instead, this conversation reveals two strikingly similar women shaped by education, intelligence, faith, and survival in a brutally patriarchal court.
Kate draws on her original research into Anne Boleyn’s Books of Hours—including a remarkable discovery that both Anne and Katherine owned copies of the same edition—to expose moments of shared piety, cultural sophistication, and even reluctant solidarity. These sources challenge simplistic labels such as “Catholic martyr” and “Protestant temptress” and reveal how both queens were politically astute, internationally educated, and fiercely protective mothers to England’s first two queens regnant.
The episode explores how Henry VIII’s needs, insecurities, and ambition have long been obscured by narratives that pit women against each other. From Katherine’s prolonged legal resistance to Anne’s calm dignity in the face of a foregone conclusion, this is a reassessment of queenship, downfall, and legacy that puts responsibility firmly back where it belongs.
If you’re interested in Tudor history, women’s power, religious reform, or how historical myths are created and sustained, this episode offers a compelling, evidence-based rethink of one of the most enduring rivalries in popular history.
Festival Info:
The Katherine of Aragon Festival Talks are on January 31st and February 1st 2026 at Peterborough Cathedral:
Tickets are available at: https://peterborough-cathedral.org.uk/about/history/katharine-of-aragon/kofa_26/
Guest: Kate McCaffrey
Kate McCaffrey is Castle Historian and Assistant Curator at Hever Castle, co-creator of Owen & Kate History, and a PhD researcher specialising in Tudor material culture, religion, and queenship.
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- Instagram: @kateemccaffreyhistorian
- Instagram: @owenandkatehistory
- Patreon: Owen & Kate History – monthly videos, articles, and behind-the-scenes curator research
- https://www.patreon.com/cw/OwenandKateHistory
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270. History Teaching Is Killing Curiosity with Janina Ramirez
57:53|Why history lessons drain passion – and how we can fix itHistory should ignite curiosity, creativity and connection. Instead, too often, it does the opposite.In this powerful History Rage Live episode, host Paul Bavill is joined by medievalist, broadcaster and historian Professor Janina Ramirez to rage against the way history is taught – and how rigid curricula, “great man” narratives and siloed subjects are snuffing out a lifelong love of the past.Drawing on her own personal journey, Janina explains how school history almost drove her away from the subject she loved, why women and ordinary people remain marginalised in classrooms, and how our education system has all but killed the polymath. From medieval walls to modern smartphones, she makes a passionate case for interdisciplinary history that reflects real human lives – not just battles, kings and dates.Along the way, the conversation ranges widely:• Why women’s history is still treated as optional or tokenistic• How figures like Christine de Pizan and Hildegard of Bingen challenge everything we think we know about the past• Why timelines matter – but rigid periodisation often doesn’t• How digital access could create a new generation of polymaths• And why rewriting history isn’t about politics, but accuracyThis episode is essential listening for teachers, students, parents, historians and anyone who’s ever felt bored by history lessons – and wondered why.If you’ve ever loved history but felt pushed away by how it’s taught, this rage is for you.About the guest: Professor Janina RamirezProfessor Janina Ramirez is a medievalist, art historian and broadcaster, and President (for life) of the Gloucester History Festival. She is renowned for bringing interdisciplinary, people-centred history to wide audiences through books, television and public scholarship.Books📘 Legenda: The Real Women Behind the Myths That Shaped EuropeAvailable here: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9780753560419Follow & contact Janina RamirezTwitter / X / Instagram: @drjaninaramirezGloucester History Festival: https://www.gloucesterhistoryfestival.co.ukMore History Rage with Janina Ramirez🎧 Episode 82 – Medieval women written out of history: https://pod.fo/e/1ef944🎧 Episode 147 – Life inside a medieval convent: https://pod.fo/e/269598About History RageHistory Rage is the podcast where historians vent their frustrations and dismantle the myths we were taught at school. Hosted by Paul Bavill, each episode challenges comfortable narratives and puts passion back into the past.Follow History RageTwitter / X / Instagram / Facebook: @HistoryRageWebsite & bookshop: https://www.historyrage.comSupport the podcast❤️ Join Patreon for live streams and exclusive content:👉 https://www.patreon.com/historyrage🎧 Listen ad-free on Apple Podcasts for just £3 per month via Apple Subscriptions⭐ And if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review or recommend History Rage to a friend – it really helps the podcast grow.Stay angry. History depends on it.
9. 269. Enough About The Tudors Already! with Al Murray
51:55||Season 20, Ep. 9Why are we still obsessed with the Tudors? In this lively episode of History Rage, host Paul Bavill is joined by the brilliant comedian and World War II historian Al Murray to tackle the relentless fixation on the Tudor dynasty. With a blend of humour and historical insight, Al argues that it’s high time we move beyond the soap opera of Henry VIII and his six wives to explore the far more transformative events of the 17th century — namely, the English Civil War.Join us as we delve into:- Tudor Fatigue: Al’s candid thoughts on why the Tudors have overstayed their welcome in popular history.- The English Civil War: Discover why Al believes this tumultuous period is far more relevant and interesting than the Tudor saga.- Revolutionary Ideas: How the Civil War set the stage for modern British governance and the ongoing struggle between power and the people.- Historical Narratives: The importance of perspective in history and how personal biases shape our understanding of the past.- Fresh Approaches: Al shares insights from his writing, including how to approach historical events without the burden of hindsight.With Al's unique blend of comedy and historical analysis, this episode is a call to arms for history enthusiasts to broaden their horizons and explore the rich tapestry of our past beyond the Tudors. Get ready for a passionate discussion that challenges the status quo of historical storytelling!📚 Connect with Al MurrayCheck out his latest book Victory 45 co-authored with James Holland: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9781472146360Follow Al on social media: Instagram/Threads: @thealmurray | Twitter/Bluesky: @almurray❤️ If you’re enjoying this episode, support the show on Patreon for exclusive content, early access, and the iconic History Rage mug. Subscribe at www.patreon.com/historyrage🔗 Follow History Rage on Social Media:Twitter: @HistoryRageInstagram: @historyrageFacebook: History RageJoin us for a spirited debate that’s sure to ignite your passion for history and challenge your views on what truly matters in our past!
268. James I Was Not a Slobbering Weakling with Gareth Russell – Katherine of Aragon Festival Special 4
55:40|James I wasn’t weak, stupid, or slobbering — history got lazyJames I has gone down in history as a disappointment, a fool, a drunken slob — a king wedged awkwardly between Elizabeth I and Charles I and remembered largely for what others did to him. But what if almost everything you think you know about James I is wrong?Historian and author Gareth Russell returns for a record-breaking fifth appearance to dismantle the enduring caricature of James I of England and VI of Scotland. From supposed physical deformities and “slobbering” table manners to accusations of cowardice, weakness, and religious extremism, Gareth takes aim at centuries of lazy myth-making and historical snobbery.Drawing directly on contemporary sources, Gareth explains why the image of James as a grotesque failure tells us far more about xenophobia, propaganda, and bad history than it does about the man himself.This episode explores:Why James I became the “unpopular in-between king” of British historyHow English and Scottish prejudice shaped his posthumous reputationThe truth behind claims of physical deformity and drunken incompetenceJames’s surprisingly effective rule in Scotland — and why people wept when he leftHis deep commitment to peace and how he kept Britain out of the Thirty Years’ WarThe complex reality of his religious views, Catholic toleration, and hatred of Puritan extremismHis dangerous but evolving obsession with witchcraft and the long shadow of DaemonologieHow and why James authorised the King James Bible — and how involved he really wasWhy his failure to unite England and Scotland politically haunted his reignThis is not an exercise in rehabilitation or hero-worship. As Gareth makes clear, James I was deeply flawed — but he was also intelligent, scholarly, peace-driven, and far more effective than history likes to admit.If you’ve ever repeated the myths, laughed at the caricature, or dismissed James I outright — this episode is your invitation to rage at bad history and demand better.Live Appearance Announcement📍 Gareth Russell is speaking at the Katharine of Aragon Festival🗓 31 January & 1 February🎟 In-person tickets and digital passes available here:https://peterborough-cathedral.org.uk/about/history/katharine-of-aragon/kofa_26/Gareth’s festival talk explores the powerful and emotionally complex relationship between James I and his mother, Mary Queen of Scots, whose remains were once held at Peterborough Cathedral.About the Guest: Gareth RussellGareth Russell is a historian, broadcaster, and bestselling author specialising in early modern Britain and Europe.Books:Queen James: The Life and Loves of James I https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9780008660857The Palace: 500 Years of History at Hampton Court https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9780008437015Podcast:Single Malt History with Gareth Russell: https://open.spotify.com/show/1WESbOrpImFKKF55tfYYYjFollow Gareth Russell:Website: https://www.garethrussell.co.ukX / Twitter: @garethrussell1About History RageHistory Rage is the podcast where professional historians come armed with evidence — and fury — to tear down historical myths, misinformation, and lazy storytelling.Hosted by Paul Bavill, History Rage challenges everything you think you know about the past and demands better standards from popular history.Follow History Rage:All Social Media: @HistoryRageListen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major platformsSupport the podcast:History Rage is proudly independent. You can support the show, access bonus content, and help keep historians raging by backing the podcast on Patreon. www.patreon.com/historyrageIf you care about truth, nuance, and calling nonsense what it is — this one’s for you.
8. 267. Forget Templars: Hospitallers are more interesting with Rory MacLellan
57:01||Season 20, Ep. 8Templars weren’t the greatest, the longest-lasting, or even the most useful of the medieval military orders.⚔️ Forget the Bloody Templars. It's Time for the Knights Hospitaller.In this fiery episode of History Rage, host Paul Bavill is joined by historian Rory MacClellan (author of Warrior Monks: Politics and Power in Mediaeval Britain) to tear down the Templar myth and put the spotlight where it belongs—on the far more fascinating Knights Hospitaller.🔥 The Hospitallers: Beyond the Crusades Rory rages against the obsession with Templars in films, books, and conspiracy theories. He argues the Hospitallers were more interesting and important, with a much longer history, existing as an active military force for almost 600 years. Unlike their rivals, the Hospitallers had a dual purpose: they founded hospitals to care for pilgrims and the sick, a function they maintained throughout their history, from Jerusalem to Rhodes to Malta. After losing the Holy Land in 1291, they successfully reinvented themselves as a naval power, while the Templars failed to adapt and were wiped out.🏰 Politics, Intrigue, and Beheadings Far from being mere crusaders, the Hospitallers were significant landowners and powerbrokers across Europe, a role that drew them into local politics. Rory shares gripping stories of their deep entanglement in royal courts, civil conflicts, and even assassination plots. Key examples include:Prior Robert Hales: A royal admiral and treasurer, Hales was seen as responsible for a new poll tax and became a specific target during the Peasants' Revolt of 1381. He was dragged from the Tower of London by a mob and beheaded at Tower Hill. In a shocking betrayal, three of his own servants were among the mob that burned his priory and were present at his execution.Prior John Langstrother: He got involved in the Wars of the Roses, initially siding with Henry VI and later joining Edward IV. After switching his allegiance to the Earl of Warwick and the Lancastrian cause, Langstrother was captured after the Battle of Tewkesbury in 1471 and beheaded on a scaffold outside the abbey.💡 Legacy That Outlived the Hype So why did the Hospitallers survive when the Templars burned? They acquired their own independent base on Rhodes, which was far away from rulers like the King of France who went after the Templars. They also had a reputation for charity and ran a big network of hospitals, a function the Templars did not have. The Hospitallers' legacy as both warriors and caregivers kept them relevant for 600 years. Today, their legacy is still alive—long after the Templars vanished into myth.📚 Guest Info Find more from Rory MacClellan in Warrior Monks: Politics and Power in Mediaeval Britain. Support independent bookshops and authors through this link : https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9781803996776Follow Rory on X: @RFMacLellan❤️ Support History Rage Enjoying the rage? Back us on Patreon or Apple for early episodes, bonus content, and the coveted History Rage mug.👉 www.patreon.com/historyrage 🔗 Follow History Rage Twitter: @historyrage Facebook: History RageInstagram: @historyrageStay angry. Stay curious. And never stop questioning the myths.
266. She’s Not Lady Jane Grey: She’s Lady Jane DUDLEY with Joanne Paul – Katherine of Aragon Festival Special 3
57:07|She wasn’t a pawn — Lady Jane Dudley was shaped by power, politics and purposeFor centuries she has been remembered as Lady Jane Grey: the tragic, passive “Nine Days’ Queen.” - But what if that story is wrong?In this episode of History Rage, host Paul Bavill is joined by historian and author Dr Joanne Paul to rage against one of Tudor history’s most persistent myths — the erasure of Lady Jane Dudley and the deliberate sidelining of the Dudley dynasty from her story.This conversation dismantles the idea of Jane as a helpless victim of ruthless men and instead reveals a highly educated, politically aware young woman who understood exactly what the Tudor succession crisis meant — and what it might cost her. Drawing on contemporary evidence, Dr Paul explores Jane’s agency, intelligence and religious conviction, and explains why the Dudleys became convenient scapegoats once Mary I reclaimed the throne.As the discussion widens, the episode exposes the brutal realities of Tudor power: shifting loyalties, manufactured villainy, and the dangerous fiction of “legitimate” succession. From Edward VI’s handwritten Device for the Succession to the execution of John Dudley and the astonishing rehabilitation of Robert Dudley under Elizabeth I, this is a deep dive into how dynasties rise, fall — and rise again.Crucially, this episode also restores women to the centre of the narrative. From Jane Dudley herself to Jane, Duchess of Northumberland, the Dudley women emerge as formidable political operators whose influence shaped events long after the axe fell.If you think you know the story of Lady Jane Grey, this episode will change your mind.Key themes exploredWhy “Lady Jane Grey” is a historical misnomerJane Dudley’s education, intellect and political awarenessThe Dudley family’s central role in the Tudor succession crisisEdward VI’s intentions — and misconceptions — about successionScapegoating, propaganda and Tudor myth-makingThe power and resilience of Dudley womenRobert Dudley’s improbable rise at Elizabeth I’s courtWhat the Dudleys reveal about loyalty, ambition and survival in Tudor EnglandFestival Info:The Katherine of Aragon Festival Talks are on January 31st and February 1st 2026 at Peterborough Cathedral:Tickets are available at: https://peterborough-cathedral.org.uk/about/history/katharine-of-aragon/kofa_26/ About the guestDr Joanne Paul is a historian, writer and public historian specialising in Tudor politics, power and reputation. She is the author of The House of Dudley, a groundbreaking study of one of Tudor England’s most misunderstood dynasties, and has consulted on major television productions including My Lady Jane.Follow & contact Dr Joanne PaulSocial Media: @drjoannepaulBook: The House of Dudley: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9781405937191About History RageHistory Rage is the podcast where historians stop being polite and start getting angry — debunking myths, challenging lazy narratives and reclaiming complexity from centuries of oversimplification.Follow History RageWebsite: https://historyrage.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/historyrageSocial media: @HistoryRage (all major platforms)Support the podcastJoin Patreon for live episode recordings, exclusive content and the coveted History Rage mugListen ad-free via Apple Podcasts or PatreonLeave a review — it helps more people find the showShare the rage with a friend and grow the movementIf you enjoyed this episode, you might also like:Episode 252: Dr Joanne Paul on the myth of Thomas More’s martyrdom: https://pod.fo/e/34939eEpisode 171: Joanna Strong rages against the “Bloody Mary” label: https://pod.fo/e/299de6Until next time — stay angry.
7. 265. We Need to Get Over Jack the Ripper with Hallie Rubenhold
46:45||Season 20, Ep. 7Why the Jack the Ripper legend is completely useless.Get ready to hear the truth behind the headlines with social historian Hallie Rubenhold. Her groundbreaking book, The Five, challenges everything you thought you knew about the case by focusing on the victims, not the killer.Hallie explains why the endless speculation about Jack the Ripper's identity is "useless" and built on "pure mythology". As a trained museum curator, she argues that applying modern DNA testing is impossible due to tainted evidence and a lack of provenance for objects. The real "restorative justice," she argues, comes from understanding the lives of the women themselves.Discover the shocking reality of the five women's lives, which were far more complex than the common "prostitute" label suggests. Hallie reveals that only two of the women, Elizabeth Stride and Mary Jane Kelly, were known to engage in sex work. You'll learn:Polly Nichols was the daughter of a blacksmith who left her husband and children after they secured a home in one of London's first social housing buildings.Annie Chapman came from a surprisingly middle-class background, with a father who served in the Queen's lifeguard. Her life was tragically impacted by her struggle with alcoholism.Elizabeth Stride was born in Sweden and was known to be a "con artist".Catherine Eddowes came from a large family and had a difficult, nomadic existence, traveling the country selling ballads with her partner.Mary Jane Kelly, the youngest victim, may have had a different name and was said to be a skilled artist—an accomplishment reserved for the middle class at the time.Hallie argues that the Victorian press and police unfairly labelled these women based on moral judgment, and that this same bias influenced investigations much like it did with the Yorkshire Ripper case decades later. The true value of history, she says, is not to romanticize the past but to "shock" us with the "ugly shit" of truth.Join us and rage against the myths that have long obscured the truth. Guest InformationLearn more about Hallie’s work and get your copy of The Five here: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9781784162344Follow Hallie Rubenhold on social media: @hallierubenhold.Support History Rage on PatreonIf you're enjoying this episode, please consider supporting the show. Your support helps us to continue to produce well-researched episodes and bring you unique and compelling conversations with experts who are as passionate and angry about history as we are!As a thank you, you'll receive access to a range of exclusive benefits, including:Exclusive Content: Access to bonus episodes and behind-the-scenes content.Early Access: Be the first to listen to new episodes before anyone else.The Iconic History Rage Mug: Show your support with some exclusive merchandise.Join the History Rage community here: patreon.com/historyrage.Stay connected with History RageTwitter: @HistoryRageFacebook: History RageInstagram: @historyrageFrom all of us at History Rage, stay curious, stay passionate, and above all—stay angry!
6. 263. The War of 1812 Was NOT About Sailors’ Rights with Matt Taylor
01:00:14||Season 20, Ep. 6The War of 1812 wasn’t sailors’ rights — it was empire.Think you know why the War of 1812 started? Most people believe it was all about the Royal Navy “pressing” innocent American sailors. Historian Matt Taylor calls nonsense on that myth – and reveals how the real story is far darker, and far more explosive.Paul Bavill is joined by Matt Taylor, author of Black Redcoats, to uncover the hidden narratives of the War of 1812. From the forgotten African Americans who fought for Britain to the political smokescreens that dragged America into war, Matt shatters the schoolbook version of this conflict.Highlights include:The Real Cause of War – Forget sailors’ rights: the United States launched the war as an imperialist grab for territory, land, and dominance over Native Americans.Black Redcoats & the Colonial Marines – Enslaved African Americans who escaped to British lines were armed, uniformed, and helped tear apart America’s defenses. Their presence led directly to the collapse at Bladensburg and the burning of Washington.The Psychological Bombshell – Fear of slave uprisings paralysed militias, making the Chesapeake campaigns devastatingly effective.Aftermath & Legacy – From the unique “company villages” in Trinidad that still survive today, to the tragic destruction of Negro Fort in Florida, the legacy of the Black Redcoats still reverberates.The Human Story – Meet Fernando, enslaved, freed, re-enslaved by Andrew Jackson, and finally liberated – choosing to carry the name of the British officer who once commanded him.This episode doesn’t just retell history – it rips apart comfortable myths and shows how race, freedom, and empire collided in ways that shaped nations. If you want history with bite, this is it.📚 Connect with Matt TaylorBuy the book: Black Redcoats: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9781399034012Follow Matt on Social Media: [@BlackRedcoats]❤️ Support the ShowIf this episode fired you up, join the Angry Mob on Patreon for exclusive content, early access, and the iconic History Rage mug. Subscribe at www.patreon.com/historyrage or join through Apple Subscriptions🔗 Follow the RageTwitter: @HistoryRageFacebook: History RageInstagram: @historyrageJoin us as we rage against the myths of the War of 1812 and rediscover the extraordinary African Americans who fought for freedom.Stay angry
262. Stop Glorifying Henry VIII with Jackson Van Uden - Katherine of Aragon Festival Special 1
57:48|Henry VIII: beloved monarch or mass-murdering tyrant we refuse to confront?Why do we glorify a king who executed 1% of England and displaced over 10,000 people for his own power? It’s time to dismantle everything you thought you knew about Henry VIII.Historian and educator Jackson Van Uden joins History Rage to expose the real Tudor ruler: a man his own contemporaries labelled a tyrant, not the charming Christmas-bauble king of Hampton Court gift shops. Henry didn’t just kill wives — he destroyed lives, seized land, staged show trials, and crushed dissent with Stalin-level brutality. We dig into:How The Act of Supremacy turned Henry into a Caesar-papist dictator The Dissolution of the Monasteries and the 0.4% of England suddenly made homeless 200 peaceful Protesters executed after the Pilgrimage of Grace for simply disagreeing with the King Tudor “big, sexy history” that distracts from a reign built on fear How education today still sanitises Henry for the sake of heritage and TV scandals If pop culture has convinced you Henry was a misunderstood romantic, strap in — Jackson launches a rage that puts Henry in the same moral category as history’s worst dictators. By the time we’re finished, those Holbein portraits will never look the same again.Festival Info:The Katherine of Aragon Festival Talks are on January 31st and February 1st 2026 at Peterborough Cathedral:Tickets are available at: https://peterborough-cathedral.org.uk/about/history/katharine-of-aragon/kofa_26/🎙 Guest: Jackson Van UdenHistorian • Teacher • Host of History With Jackson Katherine of Aragon Festival contributor and organiser Tickets for the festival via Peterborough Cathedral link in show notes 📌 Listen to History With Jackson wherever you get your podcasts 📱 Follow Jackson:Instagram & other socials: @historywithjackson X/Twitter: @HistoryWJackson 🙌 Support History Rage & Join the Fight Against Bad HistoryIf you loved this rage, consider helping keep us angry:💥 Subscribe for bonus episodes and the right to ask questions to future guests from only £3/month 👉 Patreon: patreon.com/historyrage 🛍 Grab your coveted History Rage mug at Patreon’s £5 tier 💬 Or simply tell a friend and get another person aboard the Rage Train!🔗 Connect with History RageFollow us everywhere @HistoryRageRate & review on Apple Podcasts to help more people discover real historyJoin us live at the Katherine of Aragon Festival for our special recording with Owen Emerson and Alfred Hawkins at Peterborough Cathedral